Your thoughts on my son's hunting ability

[DoubleJ]

I've plugged his numbers into some calculators and I'm just not sure.  Come this fall, he'll be at a 22" draw length and 40lbs.  Is this going to be enough to put down a deer/elk?  I just don't think so but I'm looking for opinions.

Thanks

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

With heavy enough arrow no problem. Watched Uncle Teds wifes arrow go clean through a zebra and she shoots 50lbs i believe.

[DoubleJ]

At 22" draw length though?  Not a lot of shaft drive with only 22"

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Ya thought about it. I would do some testing by shooting into plywood or somthin and see how it penetrates! 

[BoneCollector1]

I'm pretty confident with an ultra sharp, cut on contact 2 blade broadhead you would be fine for deer.  I wouldn't feel to good about shooting an elk with that setup.  Try to buy a fast, efficient compound if you can.

[BoneCollector1]

One more thing. Keep the shots close!

[alwinearcher]

My Wife only shoots 24.5"  So she is only getting 20-25 FPS more then your son at 22"
She does shoot a little more poundage (46#) to be exact, and she has shot clean through several deer and killed a Zebra with that setup..
As long as he is accurate and has a sharp broadhead I say no problem!

[sakoshooter]

Hey DoubleJ, With that situation, I'd just get him very close and pick a very good shot.
35 - 45lb recurves have killed a lot of deer and a few elk over the years. These newer compounds will do just fine provided you stay within reasonable limits.

[sebek556]

get a rack of ribs,put in large ziplock bags. have him back off it to your set shooting distance. shoot and check you penetration. Think a pork rack should be good size for a deer, beef would be elk. that way you can figure out your distances he can penetrate.

[DoubleJ]

get a rack of ribs,put in large ziplock bags. have him back off it to your set shooting distance. shoot and check you penetration. Think a pork rack should be good size for a deer, beef would be elk. that way you can figure out your distances he can penetrate.

Hell of an idea.  Gonna do that.

[DoubleJ]

My Wife only shoots 24.5"  So she is only getting 20-25 FPS more then your son at 22"
She does shoot a little more poundage (46#) to be exact, and she has shot clean through several deer and killed a Zebra with that setup..
As long as he is accurate and has a sharp broadhead I say no problem!

Wanna film it

[sebek556]

oh forgot add the barbecue sauce after the shooting not before 

[et1702]

Might want to look at a KE calculator.  With 40# and 22" draw, he is probably less than 20ft/lbs. 

http://www.backcountrybowhunting.com/articles/calc/

This one only goes down to 24" draw, but it might be helpful.  I say get him shooting as much as possible and slowly crank the wieght up.  Hopefully he will also ahve a growth spurt and you can also increase the lbs too. 

A heavy arrow with a sharp two-blade cut on contact BH would help (as Momentum is better than KE), but he should be over 25ft/lbs KE before chasing deer size critters.  Thinnest shafts possible, with as much FOC (i.e, weight forward of center) will also help w/penetration.

Keep him shooting and poundage will increase pretty quickly!

ET

[BowBender87]

my lady shoots a 42 lb diamond edge at 23".  Shoots axis 500 with 85 grn montecs.  shot her first bull a couple years ago at 20 yards.  Arrow zipped right on through!

[DoubleJ]

His "hunting" setup will be CE Piledriver 350's cut at 27" that weigh 281gn, quickfletch quick spins that add 28gn, and 100gn Magnus Stingers 2 blade broadheads for a total weight of 409gns.  I am kind of torn between the 100gn stingers and the 125gn.  125 would give a better FOC but, puts the arrow weight up to 434.  Too heavy?

I know the 350's are a bit stiff but, they are my arrows, I have a couple dozen on hand already, and after doing about 4 nights of reading, the only real issue I can find online about using an "Over spined" arrow is that his groups might open up a bit at longer distances, which won't even come into play until his draw weight gets up big enough to where that won't be an issue anymore anyway.