Hunting with a bow during muzzleloader season

[deleted BGS]

archery is a lesser method.

Says who??? If we are just speculating on what's more primitive I'll give my    but I don't see anywhere in the regs that currently quote archery as being a more primitive weapon.

Modern Inline Muzzleloader vs Longbow = Longbow wins for "lesser weapon"
Traditional Flintlock vs Bells and whistles compound = Muzzleloader wins for "lesser weapon"
All things being equal New Inline muzzle loader vs bells and whistles compound = tie

Im assuming you could hunt with a ml during rifle season?

Yes, you can hunt with both bows and muzzleloaders during the current rifle season.




I didnt mean that as my opinion, i meant it from the game dept perspective. I hate hunting with a ml too much can go wrong I prefer archery, thats why i sold my old bow and bought a new one and put the ml back in the closet

[huntnnw]

but u can hunt with a bow during a muzzy season on permit tags..I drew a permit muzzy bull tag in blues and the gamie in person told me to have at it

[Curly]

but u can hunt with a bow during a muzzy season on permit tags..I drew a permit muzzy bull tag in blues and the gamie in person told me to have at it

I think the gamie was likely wrong.

[dreamingbig]

I also don't think that was true.  It is pretty clear in the regs that you haven't been able to until this year's proposed regs.

[washelkhunter]

I urge all muzzy hunters to contact the WDFW director and voice your opposition to allowing archery equipment use during the regular ML season by anyone, except those who have purchased and have in their possession a multiseason permit, or watch the ML season become a joke.

[bobcat]

I urge all muzzy hunters to contact the WDFW director and voice your opposition to allowing archery equipment use during the regular ML season by anyone, except those who have purchased and have in their possession a multiseason permit, or watch the ML season become a joke.

Why would I do that when I don't oppose it?

If you believe the muzzleloader season is a "joke" then you have the option of buying an archery or modern firearm tag and hunting one of those seasons instead.

[washelkhunter]

I am a ML, the season will become irrelevant if archers get the opportunity to bypass their designated season in favor of the ML. Of course you wont oppose it if it works to your benefit. At the expense of another user group however. Archers in wash have always coveted the ML season and now they may have found a back door in. But like i said before, if you want to forgo the mechanicals and get back to the wood ONLY, then maybe i wouldnt be in opposition.

[hughjorgan]

I am a ML, the season will become irrelevant if archers get the opportunity to bypass their designated season in favor of the ML. Of course you wont oppose it if it works to your benefit. At the expense of another user group however. Archers in wash have always coveted the ML season and now they may have found a back door in. But like i said before, if you want to forgo the mechanicals and get back to the wood ONLY, they maybe i wouldnt be in opposition.

Why would an archer want to give up the 13 day early season and another 13 late season for elk, same goes for deer to take a 6 day muzzy season. More than likely very few people will buy that tag and hunt with archery gear. The guys you will see more than likely be.multiseason tag holders.

[washelkhunter]

Dear Mr. Anderson.



I am contacting you to express my dismay and displeasure in the proposed adoption of

WAC 232-12-054, which allows the use of archery equipment during the ML seasons for deer and elk. What is the intent here? Is WDFW attempting to reward archers with a super user choice? Is the intent to nullify the ML season? ML is going to be overrun with archers when they see that maybe its just going to be too hot to hunt in sept. Or maybe they just want to hunt the tail end of the rut? Archers have always coveted the ML season and now it looks like they have found a backdoor in. This WAC needs to be shelved and never see the light of day. I will say however that i am not in opposition to archers hunting during the ML season as long as they have in their possession a valid Multiseason permit. I would however like to see archers hunting during ML with the Multiseason tag use only traditional archery gear such as wood bows and wood arrows. Lets keep the spirit and intent of primitive seasons primitive.



Sincerely

Mr.  (Washelkhunter) Real Name Here

Vancouver, Washington


Just emailed this to the Director of WDFW. If you Muzzy Hunters agree with it i invite you to copy and paste and send it to the director as well. Archers belong in the archery season and ML belong in the ML season. Send it to:    director@dfw.wa.gov

[Ridgerunner]

I have to throw my 2 cents in on this.  I don't think the regulation makes any sense at all and should be shot down.  There's not a real good reason to allow bows during Muzzleloader season, they already have their own season,

[Curly]

Archers should not get to hunt during ML season with a bow.  There likely won't be many who will buy a ML tag and hunt with a bow, since archers generally have the better units anyway.  ML units are crowded enough, I wouldn't want to see any more people hunting them; but that said, I don't really feel strongly enough about the position to bother writing to WDFW aobut it.

Now, if ML's could get a bunch more units, then I wouldn't have a problem at all with the proposal.

[washelkhunter]

Archers should not get to hunt during ML season with a bow.  There likely won't be many who will buy a ML tag and hunt with a bow, since archers generally have the better units anyway.  ML units are crowded enough, I wouldn't want to see any more people hunting them; but that said, I don't really feel strongly enough about the position to bother writing to WDFW aobut it.

Now, if ML's could get a bunch more units, then I wouldn't have a problem at all with the proposal.

Well Curly you dont have to write the WDFW, i already did. Just copy and paste amigo. The ML season is being gutted by an administrative rule change. I know i didnt get a heads up in the mail to vote on this. Its sneaky and backhanded, disgraceful and shameful. This will effectively be the beginning of the end for ML season, such as it is.

[Curly]

I'm just tired of writing and never getting anything my way.  I figure this would be just another defeat.  They already have there minds made up when they come up with stuff like this; I'm tired of fighting them.

[bobcat]

99% of the people will not have a problem with this change. Originally I was against the idea of archery equipment during muzzleloader season but I changed my mind.

This is not going to affect the muzzleloader season in any big way. All it will do is allow hunters a little more flexibility. Really, why would you care if someone with a ML tag chooses to hunt with a bow instead of a muzzleloader?

[buglebuster]

i usually switch back and forth between the 2 seasons each year. i really love archery hunting and even bought a new bow this year, but really enjoy calling in agressive bugling elk, killing a bull, and filling the freezer and for me, i have called in ALOT more bulls during muzzy season. if they allow this proposal to pass, i would probably be buying a muzzy tag and carrying my bow.

the downside to this, as stated above is why would i give up my 13 day season for a 6 day season? good point but when that 6 days is much better for calling a bull then the first 2 weeks of september ill take it but many people wont. Although, i have to say this current year may be a little late with the elk season starting on the 6th of october for elk. I dont think the muzzy hunters have anything to worry about with archery hunters taking over their season if this proposal passes