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Offline TheHunt

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2012, 11:00:40 AM »
Not only does taking a wild steelhead out of water for a few seconds kill the fish within minutes, it kills every wild steelhead within 100 yards!  The only way to reverse this is getting on online threads and starting pissing matches.  Keep up the good work!

 :yike: I didn't know that.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:   Great comment Old Dog  ;-)
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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2012, 11:01:59 AM »
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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2012, 07:47:40 PM »
call me an outlaw but i was fishing the hoh this weekend and had i caught a dandy native i would have a picture of it and odds are it would be out of the water. was kinda wondering how that law works on the lower hoh where you can keep a native. i suppose you could take the fish out of the water because you are going to keep it, take a pic or two of it and then decide to release it :dunno:

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2012, 08:01:43 PM »
I have a friend of a friend who has an uncle who friends nephew was out fishing on the Hoh a week ago and he caught a dandy native he pulled it out of the water for a nice picture and before you know it the fish "accidentally" slipped out of his hands and back into the water to hit the spawning grounds! Or thats how he tells it! ;)

I think if you take the fish out of the water for a picture before you are going to bonk it and it some how ends up back in the water well its not your fault its divine intervention as far as I am concerned!

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2012, 08:19:08 PM »
I'm looking forward to going and setting-up my bear bait this weekend, I'm just really hopeful ill draw my spring bear tag for monroe this time!!! After all I don't agree with the law on baiting bears. Its stupid I can choose to release bears unharmed or pick the right one. I mean its a really stupid rule, why should I have to follow it?





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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2012, 08:39:15 PM »
I'm looking forward to going and setting-up my bear bait this weekend, I'm just really hopeful ill draw my spring bear tag for monroe this time!!! After all I don't agree with the law on baiting bears. Its stupid I can choose to release bears unharmed or pick the right one. I mean its a really stupid rule, why should I have to follow it?





Just sayin.....

I don't think people are looking to pick the right one when it comes to a native.  They just want a quick picture.  Its like a person sticking there head under water, we can hold are breath right  :chuckle: .  Why can't the fish hold there breath and be kind enough to let us take a pic.  :chuckle:

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2012, 08:43:29 PM »
I love this site...   So many smart butts not too many people taking it too seriously. 
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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2012, 09:32:16 PM »
I just want a quick pic of a spring bear too. Its no different!

This law was made because of all the people out there (and on here for that matter) who will drag a fish up on the bank and let it roll in the sand, dig for their cam, put a couple fingers in the gills, and sling it back in the river. The actions of a few ruin it for all. If you think people aren't looking for the "right one" your wrong. There are admitted native bonkers out there and here on this site, but that's a whole 'nother topic.

My point is rules are rules, put up a pic of a 2pt mulie or a bear by a bait on this site and see what happens.

If this is such a bad thing where were you all when "sparky" was getting this law kickin? Did you write or attend meetings?
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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2012, 09:39:24 PM »
I just want a quick pic of a spring bear too. Its no different!

This law was made because of all the people out there (and on here for that matter) who will drag a fish up on the bank and let it roll in the sand, dig for their cam, put a couple fingers in the gills, and sling it back in the river. The actions of a few ruin it for all. If you think people aren't looking for the "right one" your wrong. There are admitted native bonkers out there and here on this site, but that's a whole 'nother topic.

My point is rules are rules, put up a pic of a 2pt mulie or a bear by a bait on this site and see what happens.

If this is such a bad thing where were you all when "sparky" was getting this law kickin? Did you write or attend meetings?
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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2012, 09:44:05 PM »
I don't think its different at all. I don't believe in banning bear bait or apr's for mulies, why should I have to follow those rules?
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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2012, 10:13:59 PM »
Button that looks like a native cutthroat out of the water as your avatar?  :o

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2012, 10:16:26 PM »
i think if done quickly there's no problem as long as the fish is not totally exhausted. one of the reasons why that rule exsists is because people would drag it up on the bank let roll around then decide to get thier camera out kick it around alittle bit pick it up take some pic's look at it plop it in the river and then it goes belly up i have witnessed other fisherman do this  so i know it happens .my personal opinion i would just as soon catch a twenty pounder throw in the back of my truck next to other one go home happy with some good eating fish thats why i buy a licsense to fish  thats why god put the animals and fish here on earth to eat.

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2012, 04:47:28 AM »
Thats great information WSU.  Thankyou.   I think where my mind is at though versus what you are saying is in teh words
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or brood stock.   I was thinking more along the lines of natural mating in the river, or returning hatchery fish mating with wilds.   I'll need to read that some more to make sure they are not the same or that is different.

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2012, 09:57:57 AM »
Bone - The study is actually very interesting.  They had the genetics off all steelhead in the river (hatchery and wild) since 1991 or thereabouts.  The fish were passed over a dam and sampled.  They then spawned in the river.  The findings are for fish that were born in a hatchery for "x" generation and then spawn in the wild. 

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Re: Native out of the water
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2012, 05:46:23 PM »
Button that looks like a native cutthroat out of the water as your avatar?  :o


Native out of water only pertains to salmon, steelhead, and Dolly Vardon/Bull trout!!!!
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