WDFW survey

[ThePascoKid]

This will be my 6th year hunting ML deer and I don't think scopes should be allowed but I don't understand why certain bullets can't be used, if there is a better bullet out there that will shoot more accurate and perform better why wouldn't the state allow its use shouldn't they be promoting cleaner humane kills.  My biggest beef with ML hunting is the lack of GMU's we need more if they opened up more GMU's we wouldn't need a longer season thereby interfering with archery.

[KillBilly]

Right, like Daniel Boone climbed out of his 35' fifth wheel trailer with satellite dish to scare up some grub. If you aren't leaving the cap exposed to the elements then you are illegal, plain and simple.

It is perfectly legal to use all the tricks that our ancestors used to keep caps dry. A flap of leather, a little grease, etc. all perfectly legal.

[Sagedawg]

 Curly, the knight bighorn is still in production and legal to hunt with in Washington. They come with all 3 ingition types so all you need to do is put the one in for musket caps or #11's.




   Sage

[scudmaster]

There are still a few good options for in-lines, but the pickins are slim.   As sagedawg said Knight brought back the Bighorn.  Also Sportsman's Warehouse made a special order of rifles (I forget the model) that were originally designed for a 209 and had them fitted for percussion caps. I am introducing a friend to muzzle loading this year and he was having a had time finding a legal rifle to hunt with. 

Anyone had better luck with musket caps on damp weather?

[Curly]

Yeah, I wish I would have bought the Bighorn last year instead of the A&H.  I bought the A&H last summer as they were selling off the last of their inventory at cheap prices.  I had trouble with ignition issues and couldn't get help from the manufacturer since they were closing their doors.  I finally ended up getting it worked out, but it took a bunch of time and trial and error to get the musket caps to fire.  I started wondering why I even bothered getting an inline instead of just using my sidelock that I've had for 20 years.

It worked out in the end and I did kill a cow elk with a double lung shot at about 110 yards or so; but I wish I had gotten the Bighorn so that I could get parts in the future if needed.

I used to use #11's on my Renegade and then switched to Musket caps.  I feel like the musket caps should be a little better in our damp weather.  I did have a misfire w/ #11's once with a cow broadside at about 10 yards.  After I switched to musket caps I did kill a buck while hunting in the rain.  Musket caps are hotter, so maybe they will give a little help in damp weather.

[WDFW Hates ME!!!]

I would rather see them ban inlines than let all the high tech in.

[MountainWalk]

Here is what I wonder.. If all these folks who tout the inlines  are constantly saying,, there is no real advantage over a traditional cap lock,, then why even buy them or use them? Of course there is an advantage.  The way I see it,, if you want pellet powder, shotgun primer ignition and scopes, might as well hunt modern rifle.  Its weird.. everyone talks about the challenge of muzzleloading, but do everything possible to negate all the challenges involved. If it were up to me, it would be side lock only.

[CP]

I could live with side lock only.  I’d even go for round ball only.  It would be real lonely in woods during ML season. 

[marc10000]

My Brother hunts Elk in New Mexico on Mt Taylor, it is a special draw Bow hunt. They got a 5X5 down there a couple years ago. They took it in to the butcher and he said he dug 3 round balls out of it. Butcher says he see's it all the time in the Elk that come off that Mountain.

[MountainWalk]

Im sure he has. But for those three roundballs, are scores of broadheads, buckshot, bullets.  Round balls kill pretty decent for me.

[CP]

Mt Taylor near Grants NM?  Nice country around there.  I used to hunt the Gila to the South of there and around Tularosa.

[marc10000]

Yeah same place. Parents had property by Bluewater Lake near Grants.