Is WDFW insane/run by idiots?

[lokidog]

Just got email notifications for two rule changes....

Here's the title of the first one:  Rockfish retention allowed seaward of 30 fathoms in Marine Area 2

Here's the second:  Lingcod fishing closed in portions of Marine Area 1 and 2 - Close recreational lingcod fishing in deepwater portions of Marine Areas 1 and 2 year round

Then, the lat/long they give is approximately the same line for each of these.  So, according to this you cannot fish for lingcod because you might catch a yellow eye or canary rockfish, but you can fish for other rockfish??

SO what's up with this?

[NWWABOWHNTR]

I can answer the title..........

YES

[lokidog]

I know, the title was a bit rhetorical.   

[pjb3]

 

[Wea300mag]

Haha, the direct answer is "YES"

I think the main issue with the WDFW is only a small percentage of them actually hunt or fish so they are out of touch with reality. Anyone who has ever tried to call them and get a question answered can attest to this.

[Moose22]

YES, by all means.

[singleshot12]

"Out of touch with reality" is probably the more appropriate label. It is just a job to them and nothing more with common sense out the door. You see where the increase in license fee's get us! no where!..more complicated rules and less opportunity   Goodbye Washington 

[Special T]

Maybe we should push for some kind of explanation for these kinds of changes in hunting/fishing regs... they "might" have a good reason...  On the hunting side of this crap you also see it so i think its just best to call them on the carpet and require some kind of explanation. 

[lokidog]

The reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths.  I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows.  Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them.   

[robodad]

The reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths.  I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows.  Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them.   

I got the same emails and I thought the same thing, I was waiting to comment on this because I thought for sure I'd get an email correcting the wording on it but nothing so far. Maybe the answer is to come up with a better way to release these threatened or endangered fish so the mortality isn't so high when caught incidentally ??

I built a short fishing rod with a small penn reel and 50lb or so braided line and I built a heavy pipe jig with a huge inverted barbless hook on it so when I catch one of these fish( or any rockfish I don't plan on keeping) I just slip the barbless hook in the lip of the fish and send it down, then all I have to do is stop the decent of the pipe jig and the fish comes free and I never see them floating. anyone else have any ideas ? I know your not supposed to pop their bladders or anything.

[FC]

SO what's up with this?

If I had to guess I would say that they are doing that so the charters can still fish for the suspended sea bass.

[Bean Counter]

Way beyond idiots--its run by *censored*s!

[huntnnw]

I know of several people recieving multiple deer and elk tags in the mail

[shanevg]

Ned the thread but i can just say yes to the question to save some time.

[75johndeere]

The reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths.  I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows.  Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them.   

I got the same emails and I thought the same thing, I was waiting to comment on this because I thought for sure I'd get an email correcting the wording on it but nothing so far. Maybe the answer is to come up with a better way to release these threatened or endangered fish so the mortality isn't so high when caught incidentally ??

I built a short fishing rod with a small penn reel and 50lb or so braided line and I built a heavy pipe jig with a huge inverted barbless hook on it so when I catch one of these fish( or any rockfish I don't plan on keeping) I just slip the barbless hook in the lip of the fish and send it down, then all I have to do is stop the decent of the pipe jig and the fish comes free and I never see them floating. anyone else have any ideas ? I know your not supposed to pop their bladders or anything.

they sell tools that are used with great results in Florida that help deflate the swim bladder i was talking to a bio last year and they wanted it implament them but couldn't figure out how to train people on the use of them kinda self explanatory if you ask me