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Quote from: robodad on March 14, 2012, 11:18:02 PMQuote from: lokidog on March 14, 2012, 09:48:41 PMThe reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths. I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows. Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them. I got the same emails and I thought the same thing, I was waiting to comment on this because I thought for sure I'd get an email correcting the wording on it but nothing so far. Maybe the answer is to come up with a better way to release these threatened or endangered fish so the mortality isn't so high when caught incidentally ??I built a short fishing rod with a small penn reel and 50lb or so braided line and I built a heavy pipe jig with a huge inverted barbless hook on it so when I catch one of these fish( or any rockfish I don't plan on keeping) I just slip the barbless hook in the lip of the fish and send it down, then all I have to do is stop the decent of the pipe jig and the fish comes free and I never see them floating. anyone else have any ideas ? I know your not supposed to pop their bladders or anything.they sell tools that are used with great results in Florida that help deflate the swim bladder i was talking to a bio last year and they wanted it implament them but couldn't figure out how to train people on the use of them kinda self explanatory if you ask me
Quote from: lokidog on March 14, 2012, 09:48:41 PMThe reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths. I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows. Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them. I got the same emails and I thought the same thing, I was waiting to comment on this because I thought for sure I'd get an email correcting the wording on it but nothing so far. Maybe the answer is to come up with a better way to release these threatened or endangered fish so the mortality isn't so high when caught incidentally ??I built a short fishing rod with a small penn reel and 50lb or so braided line and I built a heavy pipe jig with a huge inverted barbless hook on it so when I catch one of these fish( or any rockfish I don't plan on keeping) I just slip the barbless hook in the lip of the fish and send it down, then all I have to do is stop the decent of the pipe jig and the fish comes free and I never see them floating. anyone else have any ideas ? I know your not supposed to pop their bladders or anything.
The reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths. I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows. Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them.
Quote from: 75johndeere on March 15, 2012, 05:15:39 AMQuote from: robodad on March 14, 2012, 11:18:02 PMQuote from: lokidog on March 14, 2012, 09:48:41 PMThe reasoning for the lingcod closure is to reduce the incidental mortality on the two endangered rockfish that turn into puffy shark food when caught from great depths. I would assume (of course that could make an ass of u and me) that they meant to say "not allowed" for rockfish, but who knows. Just typical of the insanity that sometimes issues forth from them. I got the same emails and I thought the same thing, I was waiting to comment on this because I thought for sure I'd get an email correcting the wording on it but nothing so far. Maybe the answer is to come up with a better way to release these threatened or endangered fish so the mortality isn't so high when caught incidentally ??I built a short fishing rod with a small penn reel and 50lb or so braided line and I built a heavy pipe jig with a huge inverted barbless hook on it so when I catch one of these fish( or any rockfish I don't plan on keeping) I just slip the barbless hook in the lip of the fish and send it down, then all I have to do is stop the decent of the pipe jig and the fish comes free and I never see them floating. anyone else have any ideas ? I know your not supposed to pop their bladders or anything.they sell tools that are used with great results in Florida that help deflate the swim bladder i was talking to a bio last year and they wanted it implament them but couldn't figure out how to train people on the use of them kinda self explanatory if you ask meI bought one of those, have only had to use it twice since I did, it semed to work both times. They require every boat to have one down in the Gulf of Mexico. Seems silly not to recommend it here. A good utube video on how to would do wonders. Robo, the pipe jig thing sounds like it would work as well.
Well we wouldnt have had an issue if they didn't allow those commercial fishing dredges in the puget sound years back. They literally raped the bottom of lings, rock, red snapper etc. Still pisses me off to remember how good it was back then.
Robodad how heavy is your pipe jig setup? I've had a 4lb weight not sink a big yelloweye before, without popping their swim bladder those big yelloweye and bocaccio are pretty tough to sink.
I still don't get why you can fish for rockfish but not lingcod in the same area? It still makes no sense to me. The ling populations have no problems so if the state is willing to allow a certain amount of bycatch and subsequent mortality of the protected rockfish while targeting other rockfish, why the restriction on the lings during the same time period?I think I can answer this... the Charter boats can get more people to pay for trips to catch 10 rockfish per person than 2 lingcod, so follow the money.... The Charter boat lobby is big here, hence the exception for salt water of the rules over the rest of the state that you cannot catch someone else's limit.None of this actually effects my fishing as I generally do not fish Area 2 nor do I target lings in deep water in Area 1, but the inconsistency and lack of logic troubles me.If these endangered fish are a concern, and they mostly live deeper than 150 feet (which they do), then shut off all fishing deeper than 150 feet!