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Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« on: March 16, 2012, 03:49:17 PM »
I heard about this on another site. I just wanted to spread the word. Apparently the CEO of Camping World pulled the advertising from Celebrity Apprentice because of Trump Jr's hunting trip.

http://www.nrahuntersrights.org/Article.aspx?id=6266

The ABCNews.com headline burst across the screen as if to announce some vital, breaking news story:

“Donald Trump’s Sons Photographed with Dead Animals in Africa.”

Wow. This is headline news?

Accompanying the story was a photo of Donald Trump Jr. posed with a fine Cape buffalo any hunter would be proud of. The popup caption read: “Trump’s sons with mutilated animals.” (Actually, there were NO signs of “mutilation.”)

That was one of the milder headlines—others used terms like “Animal Butchery.”

Mainstream media, PETA and The Huffington Post are all taking turns in a feeding frenzy of personal attacks on Donald Trump Jr. and his brother, Eric, over a safari they took two summers ago in Zimbabwe, and photos from the trip that have surfaced online. The pair killed an elephant, crocodile, kudu, civet, waterbuck, leopard and Cape buffalo.

Granted, the name Trump might draw some media attention no matter what you do, but the firestorm of attacks the brothers are drawing is hardly journalism. It is simply more proof of mainstream media’s eagerness to give animal rights’ groups the headlines they crave. These groups contribute absolutely nothing for wildlife management, here or in Africa, yet multiple new sources have picked up their statements maligning the Trumps. 


PETA, for example, said, “Like all animals, elephants, buffalo, and crocodiles deserve better than to be killed and hacked apart for two young millionaires’ grisly photo opportunity.” The “hacked apart” reference seems directed at a photo of Donald Jr. holding an elephant’s tail and a knife. Donald says it was actually local villagers who did the cutting, following a tradition that dates back to ivory hunters of a century ago—but what does it matter, anyway? Is it really any different than a kid plucking tail feathers from his first pheasant? We take tails, feathers, horns, hides and antlers as a matter of respect and reverence, and for the memories they give us. Anti-hunters malign all of these objects as “trophies” and seem incapable of understanding how profoundly meaningful they are.

Indeed, The Huffington Post used the term “trophy” or “trophy hunting” as if there is something wrong with it no less than four times, along with the words “killing spree in Zimbabwe” in the headline of their story. And, as has become usual with anti-hunting groups, they took a perfectly legal and legitimate hunt and did their best to link it with poaching, stating, in one example: “According to Time magazine’s reports, ‘Killing Fields,’ Asian poachers and smugglers have posed as trophy hunters to access Africa’s rare rhino horn.”

In truth, neither The Huffington Post nor PETA nor mainstream media do anything about poaching in Africa—but hunters do.

In a phone conversation with Eric Trump, he pointed out that most poaching in Zimbabwe is done by people trying to feed their families. “They essentially live on cornmeal and very little of it,” Eric said. “They’re totally malnourished. If you shoot a buffalo, the whole village comes out, and they celebrate and they take every morsel.” The meat provided by legitimate hunters reduces the need for locals to take game illegally—something the media and animal rights’ groups have failed to mention.

NRA Board Member Todd Rathner, who has run African safaris for years (www.TJSafari.com), explained something else the media and antis left out. The economy in Zimbabwe is a disaster. Inflation is at unprecedented highs and, according to Rathner, “It takes a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread.  The only income Zimbabwe has right now is from sport hunting.

“A percentage of the fees that hunters pay their PH and outfitters goes into the local communities,” Rathner said. “The outfitter has to pay for the hunting rights, and in Zimbabwe, it can be as much as 50 percent. That money is being used in many areas to build schools, improve housing and create community centers. 

“When you monetize the game in a country where people can’t afford to feed themselves,” Rather continued, “then the locals have an incentive to protect the game herds. If they banned hunting, then people would be forced to go out and kill animals to feed their families.”

Another false notion PETA and others want perpetuated is that much African game, particularly elephants, are endangered. In fact, there are so many elephants in Botswana the military has to cull them. In Zimbabwe, the country has about 100,000 elephants, yet the carrying capacity is estimated to support only 40,000. Habitat destruction is widespread and managed hunting is critical to the survival of the species.

Despite the public attacks, Donald Jr. and Eric—both NRA life members—have stood their ground admirably and represented hunting well. “We are hunters,” Eric told us with pride. “We are outdoorsmen.” Eric particularly bridled at accusations that his hunt was “canned” or took place in pens. “The area we hunted was twice as big as Rhode Island,” he said. “There was no possibility of a fence.”   Donald stated, “I’m a hunter, and for that I make no apologies. The villagers were so happy for the meat, which they don’t often get to eat.” He added on Twitter, “And btw, I bet the money I spend on license fees that goes back to the animals is a lot more than the antis give for sure.”

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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 10:10:38 PM »
Good to know.  :twocents:
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 11:46:39 PM »
  I personally had a bad experience with camping world in burlington.  Sales, and service both.  Two reasons to not give them any business.  I wont be going back.

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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 09:48:45 PM »
I read about this earlier this week.  At first I thought the Camping World referenced was going to be some company other than the big RV dealer but when I looked into it further I quickly eliminated Camping World from the list of dealers I will be visiting when I buy a new or slightly used toyhauler this spring.   :stup:

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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 09:55:33 PM »
I e-mailed and called a local Camping World dealer to let them know how I feel. I believe this is an instant hit to the pocket book. Its hard to believe a CEO of a company like this would make such a public controversial statement.
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2012, 03:59:40 AM »
It is good to see people band together and boycott anti hunting company's.  You might add a couple more.  One of the biggest anti hunting  company's is Quaker Oats.  How m,any of you pack Quaker Oats granole bars out in the field with you.  another in Hallmark Cards.  When I get a H/M card, I accept it with no problem.  But I do call the sender and thank them for the card, but in the future please choose another brand.  Most don't know that H/M is anti hunting.

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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 05:40:53 AM »
I sent Camping World an e-mail myself so we shall see what their comment will be.
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 09:49:46 AM »
Here are some of the responses from the CEO Marcus Lemonis on the RV.NET forum which he monitors. Usually after he responds the forum threads are locked. One of my posts was deleted and all I said was I think Camping World made a huge mistake.

"To clarify our position, Camping World as America’s Largest Outdoor company, believes in personal freedom. In this country, people are free to choose. This issue at hand is not about whether people should be able to hunt or not. Our company is neither for nor against hunting. We are for personal choice and having people enjoy the outdoors in whatever fashion they choose. However, if and when the hunting of endangered species occurs, whether in the United States or abroad, it is not acceptable to even the most avid of hunters. We remain strong in our conviction of preserving the outdoors, protecting our great country's lands and the freedom to choose.

Marcus"


"I will say this for the final time. Cut it, paste it, copy it etc

I am not opposed to legal hunting. The company has no position for or against it

People have the right to choose.

We will never delete posts as long as they contain no vulgarity, no personal attacks or threats and add value to the forum. People are entitled to their own opinion.
How we advertise or why we do certain things are related to business. If you study our historical affiliations all would know that we don't take a position on this issue. Those affiliations in the pad have always been my decision.

Our episode will still air since it was filmed last year.

It's time to move on and enjoy the outdoors. I hope that is with us."


Here is a link to Camping World if you want to let them know how you feel.

http://www.campingworld.com/contactUsForm.cfm?&contactValue=General%20Questions

I posted this topic in SYM but wondering is this should be moved to a different area so more people can read it. I think it is something the hunting community should know about.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2012, 10:04:00 AM by SnakeEyes »
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 10:07:33 AM »
Definitely a topic for all hunters to see.  :tup:

There's nothing at all endangered with the animals that they hunted. I also have a little higher regard for "Trump", I wondered how he felt about guns. He must not be too opposed if two sons are hunting around the world.  :)
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 10:19:03 AM »
I also wrote to them asking for clarification. In addition, I posted on the ABC new story. A little education was sorely needed there.
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2012, 10:32:05 AM »
There's nothing at all endangered with the animals that they hunted. I also have a little higher regard for "Trump", I wondered how he felt about guns. He must not be too opposed if two sons are hunting around the world.  :)

Maybe not "too opposed" but also definitely not a proponent of hunting either:

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Trump was quick to defend his sons, telling TMZ, "My sons love hunting. They're hunters and they've become good at it. I know that anything they did was 100% OK in terms of the hunting community." However, Trump was equally quick to note that he himself does not share in the sport, saying, "I am not a believer in hunting and I'm surprised they like it."


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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2012, 11:29:24 AM »
I wonder what he means by "not a believer in hunting"? ???
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2012, 11:30:44 AM »
I wonder what he means by "not a believer in hunting"? ???

I guess he'd rather buy his meat at a store than have to kill it and butcher it himself.   :dunno:


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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 11:51:55 AM »
I wonder what he means by "not a believer in hunting"? ???

Who cares? He stands behind his sons' right to do it, so he's not an anti. Lots of people don't understand the pull of hunting. As long as they don't stand in my way, I don't mind.
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Re: Camping World - Anti Hunting?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2012, 11:54:07 AM »
I wonder what he means by "not a believer in hunting"? ???

Who cares? He stands behind his sons' right to do it, so he's not an anti. Lots of people don't understand the pull of hunting. As long as they don't stand in my way, I don't mind.

Obviously I care since I asked the question.
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