Lighted nocks and expandables

[ladyelkslayer]

I was told today that for the next two years that lighted nocks and expandables will be allowed in Washington.  The guy who told me said he heard it from a friend who works at a Game and Fish office in Seattle...anyone else hear of anything about this yet?

[billythekidrock]

Well they are working on the 3 year package so I doubt it would be for only two years.. if it is true.

[lokidog]

Lighted nocks seem like they will probably be a go from all the chatter, but I don't think there has been any discussion of expandables.   

[hunterdan]

(b) It is unlawful to have any electrical equipment or
electric device(s) attached to the bow or arrow while hunting
except for illuminated nocks.
Found this on the WDFW website under proposed regulations for 2012-2014.

[muzbuster]

(b) It is unlawful to have any electrical equipment or
electric device(s) attached to the bow or arrow while hunting
except for illuminated nocks.
Found this on the WDFW website under proposed regulations for 2012-2014.

Thats what I read also.

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

So what about expandables

[3Under]

Proposed regulations still say "It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with a retractable broadhead."

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

Seems like they want wounded unrecoverable animals. 

[3Under]

 

[boneaddict]

As BTKR pointed out, it would probably be for 3 years since thats how they roll out big ticket items such as this, and as stated, the illuminated nocks are up for possible change as worded, however nothing on expandables that I know of.

[D-Rock425]

Seems like they want wounded unrecoverable animals. 

I'm not sure I understand your statement.   A bad shot with a mechanical broadhead is the same as a bad shot with a fixed blade broadhead and I'm not sold on the lighted knock helping you recover game maybe your arrow but not the animal.  That being said I have no issues with either one if made legal.   If you want to use them help yourself.

[D-Rock425]

I was unaware there was even a fish and game department office in Seattle.

[92xj]

Seems like they want wounded unrecoverable animals. 

I'm not sure I understand your statement.   A bad shot with a mechanical broadhead is the same as a bad shot with a fixed blade broadhead and I'm not sold on the lighted knock helping you recover game maybe your arrow but not the animal.  That being said I have no issues with either one if made legal.   If you want to use them help yourself.

I agree with the last part, use whatever you want as long as it's legal, but the first parts I can't agree with 100%.  Since I just moved here from a state that allowed the use of expandables, the two bad shots do not compare 100%.  Yes, a bad shot is a bad shot, period, but a bad shot with an expandable that does not open is a horrible shot, and doesnt have anywhere close to the cutting diameter of a fixed blade.  In my years hunting there, I had many friends hunt with expandables and fixed.  I witnessed 3 shots in deer that the expandable did not open in one season.  Yes, the deer still were killed, but it took 6-16 hours to do so and were found the next day 550+ yards from the shot.  I have never seen a fixed broadhead not open.  For me, I dont understand taking the chance of something not opening or going just right when I have the option with the exact same result but without the worry of it not working.  Then again, I could careless if someone else is hunting with expandables as long as it's legal in the hunting area and they have practiced and are confident in their shot. 

[passing-thru]

Seems like they want wounded unrecoverable animals.

Usually stay out of most discussions involving use of expandables because its all a matter of preference ( where legal)  but I believe it still comes down to shot placement. When stationed in Montana during early 90s I used s broadhesd called "punch-cutters " Never lost or had to search for animal for long. A well place arrow is lethal period.  Many factors go into a lethal shot ( Proper spline, arrow weight, shot angle, ect.) The best broadhead is useless if not backed by the rest of equipment. 

[oldleclercrd]

 

Seems like they want wounded unrecoverable animals. 

I'm not sure I understand your statement.   A bad shot with a mechanical broadhead is the same as a bad shot with a fixed blade broadhead and I'm not sold on the lighted knock helping you recover game maybe your arrow but not the animal.  That being said I have no issues with either one if made legal.   If you want to use them help yourself.

D-rock the one good thing about a lighted knock is that after the shot a hunter could maybe recover his arrow ( with the help of the light ) faster and then inspect the blood on the arrow to determine if a unsure shot was either lung or gut. That way you could make a decision to either give the animal an hour or maybe overnight.