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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 05:34:32 PM »
So do the easton and beman arrows weigh what they say on them. For example; beman ics hunter 340. Does that weigh 340 grains? and the 9.3 gpi with that 340 arrow. that arrow is 9.3 grains per inch? Kinda confused

No, the "340" is the spine of the arrow. 340 means that when the place a given weight (dont remember the exact number) on the center of the shaft over a 28" span the arrow will bend .340 of a inch..

The 9.3 GPI is the weight of the shaft, so a 28" shaft will weigh 260.4 grains. (not counting nock, point, insert and fletching)
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2012, 05:35:12 PM »
Carp if my answer had been as simple as yours i would of gotten it posted before you  ;)
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 05:36:23 PM »
 :chuckle: I try to keep things simple and not hurt my brain or theres :chuckle:
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
Ok thanks guys!

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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 05:40:30 PM »
:chuckle: I try to keep things simple and not hurt my brain or theres :chuckle:

That was my simple version!
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2012, 05:44:26 PM »
 :chuckle: Well he got 2 simple answers then! :chuckle:

u jus moe edjamacted than I :chuckle:
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2012, 10:35:31 PM »
it is a pretty stupid rule!

I wish they would do a grains per pound draw, IF the arrow weighs less than a certain amount.  It really can screw a guy that has short but strong arms. 

When I shot a lighter arrow than now at 72 lb draw, I had to leave the dang things like three inches longer than necessary to get my weight up as I did not want to change broadhead weight.  I'm now older and weaker as well as shoot heavier arrows so I don't have to worry about it now.

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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2012, 12:47:48 AM »
It just might be the worst rule on archery equipment in the state.  However, the traditionalists that have always ruled the roost are starting to loose their strength with the state rule makers.  They were right about bowhunters starting to loose hunting time with increased success ratios.  But, I doubt making over 50% of today's arrow choices illegal in this state has had much effect on reducing success.  I'd have to say liberal doe/cow seasons and rangefinders have had much more of an effect.

And it will never stop stupid people from acting stupid.
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2012, 02:49:30 AM »
Draw weight is a long story.  Summary:  My bow started at 73# draw and I'm brand new to things.  When my buddy told me to wax my bow string, I figured I needed to rub enough to melt it in a bit.  Apparently that's not the case and now the strings are stretched a bit and it pulls 65#.  Gotta learn little things like this the hard way sometimes  :rolleyes:

So, I was considering getting it re-strung, but it looks like that would require me to get new arrows.  Lighted knocks and 125gr points still wouldn't cut it.  New inserts sounds like a PITA, but I've never done that, so don't really know for sure.

I'm not a gorilla, but I do make it a point to hit the gym frequently.  Does one arm dumbell rows with 90 to 110 lbs count as gorilla?

Waxing your string is important but it will not make it stretch. Your loss of draw weight is from another reason.
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2012, 04:04:25 AM »
I agree with Sako.  Waxing your string is necessary and rubbing it into the strands maximizes it's effectiveness.  So that was the right thing to do.

In professional sales training one of the first things you are taught is that consumers become happily involved in a product or service by becoming emotionally involved.  In archery that means "speed, speed and speed".  It is only after becoming emotionally involved that we as consumers begin to rationalize our emotional decision with logic. 

Bow manufacturing has become big business.  And the most successful of these companies know what their end customers emotional triggers are.  As a result all most all of them stock their bows with "Fast" strings rather than "Stable" strings.  8125 and similar strings are fast, durable and economically attractive.  Though it lacks the stability to maintain tune and ultimately poundage over time.

Even though they are always in a state of creep and thus unstable as compared to 452X or Xcel.  Sitting in a cool archery Pro Shop the creep is minimal.  Put them in a truck on a sunny day or out in the field when the mercury is pushing 80 degrees everything changes.  Even at 66# you will see some creep until the "Life" has completely crept out of it.  My advise to anyone purchasing a new bow is to find out what material the stock string is being made of.  If it is 8125 or similar upgrade to a premium 452X or similar string before you spend too much time trying to get it tuned just right.  It will save you time, money and a lot of headaches in the end.
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2012, 07:33:28 AM »
Guys, I hear what you're both saying, and maybe sitting in the back of the truck made the string stretch, because it was quite hot last September, but it damn sure got really hot every time I waxed it too.  At any rate, the end result is the same, my string obviously stretched, and enough that my draw weight dropped from 73 down to 65.  Maybe I'll get it re-strung next season, but for now I'm sticking with the 65# and 391 grain arrows.

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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2012, 02:12:46 PM »
That's a good poundage that most shoot well.  I'm all for you shooting that poundage and arrow weight.  Should be a great combination.  Though I'd get that new string as soon as you can afford it.
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2012, 02:20:07 PM »
That's a good poundage that most shoot well.  I'm all for you shooting that poundage and arrow weight.  Should be a great combination.  Though I'd get that new string as soon as you can afford it.

Yes, if the the string really did stretch that much, it has changed the breakover point in relation to your anchor. I would change it now and just dial the bow down to 65 if you're able.
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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2012, 02:41:52 PM »
Hrm.  At 65# it still shoots 301 fps with my arrows and my groups are 2-3 inches at 50 yards.  (edit)  My inclination is, if it isn't 'broke' don't fix it.  In this case, it might not be 100%, but it's working good enough.

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Re: Legal Arrow Weight?
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »
So are the Gamies going to be running around the woods with a bow scale and grain scale?  :bash:

Seems the industry standard is 5 grains per pound isnt it?

Just silly. Glad I saw this post. I hadnt heard of this before, or I forgot I had.

 


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