Wolf Packs in Washington

[seth30]

Trolls belong under bridges

[SkookumHntr]

This site is not meant for people to stir things up. The majority of the people on here are logical educated people and we do not need you telling us what "the other side of the story is". I hope the Moderator or creator of this site has the ability to revoke subscriptions because we really dont need people like Humanure on here.

Mods get rid of this guy!

[humanure]

You are right, i should put my money where my mouth is and i will attempt to add any worthwhile comments to non-wolf related threads. Before I do that, i just thought I'd share this: http://www.producer.com/2012/02/livestock-wildlife-%E2%80%A8can-co-exist-producer-%E2%80%A9/

But how realistic is that for the majority of livestock owners? You want ALL leased grazing lands to have electric fences? 24 hour surveylance? You recognise that that is an extreme case, right? While livestock owners may be able to take something away from that article, you can't expect that treatment to be simulated across the lower 48... think about the difference in terrain; how open is their pasture? Probably not too treed? It is an interesting feel-good article but it can't be expected to become the new management style for all livestock.


PS - the writer spelled "practicing" and "neighbors" wrong. No spell check in Canada? 

You are right. I'm just suggesting that co-existance is not impossible. It's hard, sometimes extremely hard, but it's possible.

[humanure]

since I don't really see him contributing in anything but wolf topics.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=95007.0

[Special T]

I would recommend that Mods leave this guy alone. I think he provides a teachable moment. How often do you get some one of opposite opinion to test your mental skills? I think Dallas is wrong, and puts up a better fight than most. We must realize that many people have opinions like his. Many of us think he is misguided, but many voters out there are ignorant as well. 

[Elkaholic daWg]

I would recommend that Mods leave this guy alone. I think he provides a teachable moment. How often do you get some one of opposite opinion to test your mental skills? I think Dallas is wrong, and puts up a better fight than most. We must realize that many people have opinions like his. Many of us think he is misguided, but many voters out there are ignorant as well. 

 I had a feeling . I almost asked if his initials were DB this morning. He has a lot of banter on the DFW wolf page. Over there I just started ignoring him.
  But for every one of them who engages us, how many others are lurking out there waiting,hoping we will give them whatever they are after? Many, I am sure.

 Hell I get wilderness society, Washington Wild,  Colorado Wild, Friends of Wolf Creek, DOW, Sierra Club, and a few other email alerts to keep track of them. I don't want at all to interact with them, but I like to see what the enemy is up to.

[DBHAWTHORNE]

I would recommend that Mods leave this guy alone. I think he provides a teachable moment. How often do you get some one of opposite opinion to test your mental skills? I think Dallas is wrong, and puts up a better fight than most. We must realize that many people have opinions like his. Many of us think he is misguided, but many voters out there are ignorant as well. 

 

Maybe we can show him the error of his ways. 

[MuleySniper]

I'm curious to hear all the other beneficiaries having wolves here are other than apparently boosting the huge tourist attraction I never knew made this state so much money? I thought our state was doing just fine without them. I would think if that was the case any person with a brain would know the hunting industry in this state makes waaaay more money than what money would be made by tourists and nature lovers coming to see the wolves? Enlighten me, because eventually if the wolves become populated here like they have in Idaho, this state can kiss over half of its revenue made by selling hunting licenses goodbye. Idaho is well onto that already.

[humanure]

Money made by selling tags is not as important to those who believe the ecology is damaged from over-grazing. Will the state lose money? Oh hell yes it will. But some things are more important than money. As soon as their recovery numbers are met, there will be tags for wolf hunting, and I can imagine that they won't be cheap.

[ribka]

I'm curious to hear all the other beneficiaries having wolves here are other than apparently boosting the huge tourist attraction I never knew made this state so much money? I thought our state was doing just fine without them. I would think if that was the case any person with a brain would know the hunting industry in this state makes waaaay more money than what money would be made by tourists and nature lovers coming to see the wolves? Enlighten me, because eventually if the wolves become populated here like they have in Idaho, this state can kiss over half of its revenue made by selling hunting licenses goodbye. Idaho is well onto that already.

C mon wolves only kill sick and diseased animals. Do you know wolves wiped out rabies and anthrax?

And deer and elk pay no taxes. Dontcha know deer and elk eat grass and browse that is supported by the American taxpayers?  I bet they defecate in public too like OWS supporters.

[KFhunter]

Money made by selling tags is not as important to those who believe the ecology is damaged from over-grazing. Will the state lose money? Oh hell yes it will. But some things are more important than money. As soon as their recovery numbers are met, there will be tags for wolf hunting, and I can imagine that they won't be cheap.

Overgrazing?
 
Are you freaking kidding me?  Have you even stepped out.....oh nevermind - you haven't - you only camped behind your house once.
 
Overgrazing?
 
There is so much feed out there not beind used it's insane!  Expecially for a browser animal.
 
WA has the capacity to hold 1000 times the Elk /Deer population we have now.
 
Wackjobs over in King CO have made it very very difficult to get into free range cattle public lands.   We don't have anywhere near the amount of cattle  and small ranches we had 15-20 and more years ago.
 
Overgrazing?
 
your outta your mind
 

[Tbar]

Humanure how many times have you come here? You do like music. This time you lasted past 1 post. Virfirnus? Your sentiment/education level has not changed a bit in years. Your words are even the same. You still going to shoot someone if they shoot a wolf? You  do need help, I am just calling it the way I see it correct me if i'm wrong. You are not a beginning hunter you are an extremist. An emotion driven illogical extremist. You remind me of Timothy Treadwell, how you love your wolves, maybe you can go coexist with wolves like he did bears. Good day sir............

[Tbar]

Humanure started a thread called "my reaction to what i've read concerning Washington wolves on this forum".  August 10 2009

[humanure]

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[Skyvalhunter]

Humanmanure it's time you take a sabbatical from the website.