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Which gun safe should I get?
« on: March 28, 2012, 07:40:24 AM »
I am in the market for my first gun safe. There are so many options and price points I could use some advice. I currently have about 5 guns, with a few more to be added over time. So I don't need anything huge. I was looking at Patriot Safe but have heard a few bad things about their service. I am trying to keep it under $1,500.  I would consider a used safe if it was in excellent condition. Anyone willing to give their 2 cents will be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 07:48:43 AM »
Get the biggest one you can fit in your house as you'll definitely grow into it. Look in classifieds first, but remember when you buy one from COSTCO, the delivery is included in the price.
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 08:05:30 AM »
I would look at the Liberty Safe.  They have excellent customer service and they are made in the USA.  Most of the safes sold by COSTCO and other large retailers are made in CHINA and use inferior parts.  One thing I would look at in a safe is a Sargent and Greenleaf lock with relockers.  Many of these companies offering Free Delivery are going to Delivery it to the curb in front of your house not one foot farther.  Also I don't know what area you live in but Washington has no sales tax on gun safes.  You probably will be in the market for a 25 cubic foot safe.  I my opinion I would buy a 25 Cubic foot safe and if you need bigger buy another of the same size because they are smaller they are easier to move if need.  I would always suggest to bolt every safe to the floor for extra security. 
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 08:32:44 AM »
Graffunder.
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 08:39:41 AM »
which ever one you buy make sure you bolt it down or it may disappear.

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 09:37:47 AM »
Do not forget to check Walmart! I picked up my Sentry on sale at Walmart for $499.00 for $150.00 cheaper then Cabelas, and $200.00 cheaper then Sporto.

Most important rule of thumb when buying gun safes, remember if it says 24 gun, you might get 12 in there if you are lucky and pack it really really tight, lol.
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 09:45:24 AM »
I would look at the Liberty Safe.  They have excellent customer service and they are made in the USA.  Most of the safes sold by COSTCO and other large retailers are made in CHINA and use inferior parts.  One thing I would look at in a safe is a Sargent and Greenleaf lock with relockers.  Many of these companies offering Free Delivery are going to Delivery it to the curb in front of your house not one foot farther.  Also I don't know what area you live in but Washington has no sales tax on gun safes.  You probably will be in the market for a 25 cubic foot safe.  I my opinion I would buy a 25 Cubic foot safe and if you need bigger buy another of the same size because they are smaller they are easier to move if need.  I would always suggest to bolt every safe to the floor for extra security.
I bought the larger Cannon (I believe it is) safe from Costco about 9 months ago.  Before buying I e-mailed the manufacturer to ask if they were made in the U.S.  I received an e-mail reply within a day stating that it was U.S. steel assembled in Mexico.  What makes you think they are made in China? 
I would have rather had U.S. made and assembled but in the end I had to go bigger insead of paying the same amount on a much smaller safe.  The whole process of ordering online was very easy, the delivery driver was awesome and although it said they would only drop it at the curb he helped me pull it up the driveway (hill) into the garage and unpackage it to make sure there were no issues before leaving.  For the money, I don't think they can be beat.  If money is not an issue there are a lot of US made and assembled safes with very high fire ratings/times but they are more than twice the money for a similar size.   

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 09:54:45 AM »
Graffunders are made in Yakima for what its worth.
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 11:54:15 AM »
I would look at the Liberty Safe.  They have excellent customer service and they are made in the USA.  Most of the safes sold by COSTCO and other large retailers are made in CHINA and use inferior parts.  One thing I would look at in a safe is a Sargent and Greenleaf lock with relockers.  Many of these companies offering Free Delivery are going to Delivery it to the curb in front of your house not one foot farther.  Also I don't know what area you live in but Washington has no sales tax on gun safes.  You probably will be in the market for a 25 cubic foot safe.  I my opinion I would buy a 25 Cubic foot safe and if you need bigger buy another of the same size because they are smaller they are easier to move if need.  I would always suggest to bolt every safe to the floor for extra security.
I bought the larger Cannon (I believe it is) safe from Costco about 9 months ago.  Before buying I e-mailed the manufacturer to ask if they were made in the U.S.  I received an e-mail reply within a day stating that it was U.S. steel assembled in Mexico.  What makes you think they are made in China? 
I would have rather had U.S. made and assembled but in the end I had to go bigger insead of paying the same amount on a much smaller safe.  The whole process of ordering online was very easy, the delivery driver was awesome and although it said they would only drop it at the curb he helped me pull it up the driveway (hill) into the garage and unpackage it to make sure there were no issues before leaving.  For the money, I don't think they can be beat.  If money is not an issue there are a lot of US made and assembled safes with very high fire ratings/times but they are more than twice the money for a similar size.
Costco has sentry safe (china), winchester (china), bighorn (china), Cannon (mexico), and they have also in the past carried other off brand ones like protector (china).
"Shoot the spike".  It's much easier to pack out!

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 12:36:27 PM »
May want to check with Cabelas in Lacey today.  If you can't go there, call them and check it out.  They are having a gun safe sale today with discounts on Cabelas, Liberty etc. safes.  They have this sale maybe once every two years.  Reason I know is my son bought one this morning, a Liberty 25 gun safe for like $1399 and I believe originally it was $1799.  Just under your budget, bigger than you currently need and a good safe from the sounds of it.  :tup:
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 12:56:22 PM »
Tracker safes, best bang for the buck Ive seen yet

http://trackersafe.com/large/

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 09:01:55 PM »
Thanks for the advice; I think I am going to take a little bit to think about this.

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 11:58:45 PM »
1. Steer Clear of Sentry, Stack-on, Winchester, Cannon, and Heritage. All this product is stitch or tack welded bodies. Some of the product uses pieced together door frames. Some of this product doesn't actually under go a fire test. Some of this product will not be covered under the warranty as the manufacturer states. Some of this product doesn't use a relocker system, or UL Listed Locks. All of this product is made with one thing in mind, making the manufacturer money.

2. Dont buy a safe from Costco, Cabelas, or a Box store. If you want to buy a safe for cheap, with the only thing the retailer thinking about is making themselves money, then buy safes at Costco, Walmart, Home depot, lowes, Cabelas,  etc....... If you want to buy a safe where someone will tell you about how it is made, what the security level is, what the fire protection level is, and how the warranty works, then go to a safe store. Almost everyone who chooses a safe under buys by a lot. Almost no one actually realizes what they are actually getting for their money. Cheap safes are easy to break into, will sustain a lot of internal damage in a fire, in a lot of cases lock you out of them, and are in almost every case providing you with a false sense of security. Buying from a safe professional will only benefit you. They will have the best pricing, they will have the most knowlede, they will have the best product, they will have the best customer service, they will have an installation service, and they will be the bridge between you and the manufacturer if you ever have issues with the safe, or need to take advantage of the warranty on the safe.

3. Buy once, cry once. On an industry whole, you can spend $1,200 on a brand new 60x30 size safe, and it can be pried open in most cases within minutes. It will not survive a total loss house fire in most cases. However, it will fool you into thinking it is an awesome safe. Just jumping up $400 will get you into a safe that will keep a thief out for a while with a pry tool, will do well in a total loss house fire, and will actually be an awesome safe. Cheap safes are cheap, you do get what you pay for. There is a reason why some safes cost more than others. Spend the $1,600 instead of the $1,200, or $800 or $500 and you wont ever have to spend the money again if you dont outgrow the safe.

4. Listen to the safe professional. Safes do get broken into all the time. Safes do go through house fires. Safes do get stolen all the time, and EVERYONE is at risk of these things happening to them. It is the safe professionals job to know about what they sell, and what everyone else is selling as well. You can look on the internet all you want, but spending an hour in a safe store talking to the safe people will teach you more than you can learn on the internet in any given amount of time. In a safe store you will see things on the safes, in the safes, and hear things about the safes that you will never ever see or read about on the internet.

5. Steer clear of the junk safes out there. EVERY manufacturer makes them. It does not matter who the manufacturer is, if it is under $1,600 then it is junk. It will keep a child out of it, or a quick smash and grab thief, and that is it. The only exception to this rule, is when the normally $1,600 safes go on sale.  :sry: It is the truth.

6. Layer your personal and home security. Being safe doesn't end with just owning a safe. Lights, home alarms, cameras, and guns will keep people away and save your life. A good home alarm is a bigger deterrent than a gun safe is any day.

7. If you want to know who's product to look at, start with: Liberty, Browning, Superior, Summit, Eagle Safe, Original safe, and NW Safe Elite's are all good places to start. Stick with a 60 minute or higher fire rating, bolt coverage on at least 3 sides of the door, relockers, anti drill hardplates, UL Listed Locks, and CONTINOUS welded bodies are a must.

You guys are living in a state where there is a Safe Store that has the BEST safe delivery crew, sales team, and customer service in the world.
If you have Questions ask away.

Somebody brough up that a certain manufacturer was the best bang for the buck. Ask these questions:

1. Are the Locks they use UL Listed?
2. Are the safes made in China?
3. Are the bodies continous welded? If they are, how do they know?
4. How long is the warranty on the safe?
5. How long is the warranty on the Lock? How long on Parts, and how long on Labor?
6. How many pieces of steel is the body made of?
7. What is the gauge thickness of the body?
8. Does the safe have a relocker?
9. Does the safe have an anti drill barrier in front of the lock?
10. What is the steel thickness of the internal door hardware that secures all the locking bolts?
11. Who fire tests the safe?
12. Where do they place the pyrometer probes inside the safe during the fire test?
13. Do they gradually heat up the furnace across the entire test, or do they heat it up within a certain time to get it up to temperature?
14. Do they have lifetime theft and fire coverage?
15. Does the Lock have a key backup?

« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 12:17:48 AM by Snopczynski »

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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2012, 01:19:48 AM »
 I bought my Liberty from these guys, http://nwsafe.com/ great customer service.
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Re: Which gun safe should I get?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2012, 07:36:46 AM »
I bought my Liberty from these guys, http://nwsafe.com/ great customer service.
Those guys actually carry about 8 different gun safe lines, but only have 1 active product line on their website. They have a showroom out in Enumclaw with about 45 safes on display, and a huge warehouse where their new store is going with over 500 safes in it.

 


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