st hellens mud flow

[bucklucky]

The boundry is the highway and the 3000 line on the toutle side, them hills they are running into are legal grounds  I think there is a hunt that is in the mudflow that is just the flow itself but not the permits for the quality hunts.

[BullMagnet76]

I grew up hunting that area and I did a lot of research on that unit last year, I called and talked to the game department and they told me not to waste my quality bull points, it is a decent unit if you are just looking for a cow.

[h2ofowlr]

I grew up hunting that area and I did a lot of research on that unit last year, I called and talked to the game department and they told me not to waste my quality bull points, it is a decent unit if you are just looking for a cow.

We had two cow tags for archery and couldn't fill them.  We hunted it a week.  We saw a lot of rag horn bulls, some as close as 6 yards, but could not locate a cow within distance.  Everytime you chirped you had 2-3 bulls run up on us.  It sucked for cow hunting.  We hunted both side, it may be better for rifle or muzzy, but don't waste it on archery.

[bucklucky]

I bet you havent seen my posts on the st helens hunts before  worst quality bull tags there are IMO. Back in the 80's and 90's (I learned to deer hunt in the margret) it was pretty bad ass seeing nice 7x7's even 8x8's running around up there. Back then in (The Canyon) where we killed most of our bucks during the summer you could see 200 5x5's and bigger, groups of 20-50 branched bulls none smaller than a 5x5. I miss those days. We lived in st helens . It has gone down hill ever since the late 90's.

[blackveltbowhunter]

 

    The only thing I would add is that while it may not be the tag, "I" would want to draw. It may be a "quality" tag to some. My hunting partner drew it for archery in 2009.... on a couple points. Awesome hunt. We had a great time saw tons of bulls and he killed his first bull with his bow. A "nice" 230 inch 5 point. It was a "quality" experience from that standpoint.

   Speaking for myself, I normally pass up very few bulls on a general season tag. I dont want to burn a buncha points on a hunt where I may never even lay eyes on a 300 inch bull. But having done the hunt I can say without a doubt, its hella fun Your opportunity at an " above average" ( speaking westside raghorns ) bull is very real. Especially during the gun season as alot of bulls will be filtering back into the unit after the rut. But, if your goal is a "quality" bull as relates to antler score, then dont waste ur points. 

   

[bucklucky]

I had a blast in there for the muzzy tag my buddy drew. He ended up with a nice 7x6. We made some hunts on a few other nice bulls. Definately a fun tag for a good bull. His bull was like 260 If I remember right. Compact with desccent mass. Very cool bull. My buddys daughter killed a 260 6x6 this year. Probably looked like a 300 type bull with all the raghorns in there  I would put in for it if I didnt have many points.

[jstone]

I have a good buddy that keeps missing his opportunity. Would that hunt be good for someone who hasn't harvested a deer or elk. He has been archery hunting sense 06 and hasn't harvested a thing yet.

[kentrek]

hmm sounds like i must be off on my scoring a touch  so where would the best alternative to the flow be ? toutles hunted out and the Margret is lots of privit land. is there another special unit for rosys ?

[blackveltbowhunter]

I have a good buddy that keeps missing his opportunity. Would that hunt be good for someone who hasn't harvested a deer or elk. He has been archery hunting sense 06 and hasn't harvested a thing yet.

    It would be a good hunt for a guy who hasnt shot anything yet, lotsa animals lotsa opportunity. But Looking at the proposed season for the unit, if he is archery hunting it sucks. Looks like a 6 day season. In his case I would go for a toutle tag... Maybe not as many animals and a bit more pressure... but way more season time.

[westside Elkhunter]

Have been down to the toutle with guys that have drawn the tag. Fun hunts. Just hope they dont shut down to fire danger. Some nice bulls hang out in the mud flow.

[WapitiChaser]

Hunted the area before and USED to put in for Margaret and Toutle every year....  Gotta say I wouldn't "waste" a ton of points on what we've seen in there the last 10 years.

That said, a "quality elk" is one I shoot.  A "raghorn" is anything less than a 7x7 shot by anyone else.

[Nuc99]

I have seen a few monster 6x7 elk while hiking in to Castle late last fall...  Go North and you wont see the big guys I am guessing.   Im not even sure the South side is open.  I hunt the Olympics... 

[bowhunterty]

No monsters but you will see bulls. But only being from Sep 5th to 11th this year not a lot a time to be choosey. Since the westside is three point or better for most units is one of the big reasons there are no good quality hunts.

[Huntbear]

Not sure about the mudflow... but if you know where to go in the Margaret, and do not mind a 5-6 mile hike in some steep country... there are some monsters up there still.   You may have to wait for them to cross a line in the sand so it is legal to shoot, but they are there.

[throttlejocky20]

Not sure about the mudflow... but if you know where to go in the Margaret, and do not mind a 5-6 mile hike in some steep country... there are some monsters up there still.   You may have to wait for them to cross a line in the sand so it is legal to shoot, but they are there.

:yeah:I had a cow tag in there a few years ago. Did alot of hiking and seen a ton of good bulls. As far as over 300 I believe its not out of the question. In 3 days of hunting we seen 2 that were for sure over 300 and one that was close. But that said it was early archery and we had the weather to make an ok spot good hunting.