Down goes illuminated nocks!

[NWWABOWHNTR]

Chase 1.... please re-read this in regards to the flawed survey.... hunters opinions? Over 1000 letters, emails against lighted nocks and electronics were submitted to the Commission in regards to this by bowhunters that felt strongly enough to do so.  Were any of you that are upset at the Commission meeting in Moses Lake? I didn't see one person testify on Saturday "FOR" it...

That was one of several ways to address the issue with the Commission, so that argument holds little water. The WDFW response to your comment was...

"While the survey was not random, it is our
belief that a significant majority of archers
support illuminated nocks. Our belief is largely
based on our experience and the large number
of respondents (3000+)."

So your saying that all the sportsman that couldn't take a day off work should not have a say on the matter? C' on Man.

No but if you read my response it also talks about letters, emails and phone calls..... had the survey indeed been sent to everyone that met the parameters of the survey as was suggested then over 20,000 people would have been polled. 

[Lowedog]

Man, I don't know about this chemically lighted nock.  That would open up Pandora's box!   Pretty soon people will be using chemicals on the other end of their arrow so they can kill an animal just by grazing it.  Imagine all the un-ethical hunting practices this will cause!!!!

[Snapshot]

Man, I don't know about this chemically lighted nock.  That would open up Pandora's box!   Pretty soon people will be using chemicals on the other end of their arrow so they can kill an animal just by grazing it.  Imagine all the un-ethical hunting practices this will cause!!!!

Those are called POD's Lowedog, and to the best of my knowledge are only legal in state of Mississippi. All national bowhunting organizations as well as the National Bowhunter Education Foundation have taken positions against the use of POD's.

[dscubame]

Can someone explain to me what the big deal is anyway?......

[pianoman9701]

It's a big deal because some people who wanted them didn't get their way. I spoke in favor of them and don't care. There are way bigger fish to fry and ones that we can all get together on, like more OTC tags and increased opportunities for everyone. Nocks? very minute in the larger picture.

[DoubleJ]

Man, I don't know about this chemically lighted nock.  That would open up Pandora's box!   Pretty soon people will be using chemicals on the other end of their arrow so they can kill an animal just by grazing it.  Imagine all the un-ethical hunting practices this will cause!!!!

My god tell me this post was completely sarcastic.

[Chase 1]

Man, I don't know about this chemically lighted nock.  That would open up Pandora's box!   Pretty soon people will be using chemicals on the other end of their arrow so they can kill an animal just by grazing it.  Imagine all the un-ethical hunting practices this will cause!!!!

  That' Hilarious!

[Chase 1]

Can someone explain to me what the big deal is anyway?......

To me the big deal is that the voice of the people was completely ignored by the people that were put in place to insure that it is heard.(a stretch yes, but that is suppose to be the idea) I have a hard time with the fact that after all the effort and money that went into gathering impute on the issue, the commission found a way to justify voting against an 85% hunter support, GMAC approval, and department recommendation. Everyone had ample time (or as ample as the dept ever gives) to give their position to the department. Although not a perfect measurement, the pole certainly took a good dip out of the hunter pool. I also cringe at the thought that a very vocal minority has pushed to influence this decision from a bully pulpit thinly veiled as representation of a fictitious number of supporters.

[Chase 1]

It's a big deal because some people who wanted them didn't get their way. I spoke in favor of them and don't care. There are way bigger fish to fry and ones that we can all get together on, like more OTC tags and increased opportunities for everyone. Nocks? very minute in the larger picture.

In a nutshell, I agree. I have voiced support of this issue from the get go. What I haven't divulged is that I have never, nor do I plan to, use lite nocks when they are made legal. I have kept an open mind to the concerns of my fellow archers and have been willing to consider factors that I may not have considered. Unfortunately for the loud >15% minority, I am still part of the vast majority. The arguments in opposition have been flimsy at best. I respect the opinions of the few, but at the end of the day they are just that, an extreme minority opinion.

As for it being a petty and distracting issue, it's absolutely true. I try to be as active on as many issues as I can find time for, this one just happen to be in our face this go round. I really wish that it had been passed this year so we could move on to the issues that really need attention.

[Snapshot]

It's a big deal because some people who wanted them didn't get their way. I spoke in favor of them and don't care. There are way bigger fish to fry and ones that we can all get together on, like more OTC tags and increased opportunities for everyone. Nocks? very minute in the larger picture.

In a nutshell, I agree. I have voiced support of this issue from the get go. What I haven't divulged is that I have never, nor do I plan to, use lite nocks when they are made legal. I have kept an open mind to the concerns of my fellow archers and have been willing to consider factors that I may not have considered. Unfortunately for the loud >15% minority, I am still part of the vast majority. The arguments in opposition have been flimsy at best. I respect the opinions of the few, but at the end of the day they are just that, an extreme minority opinion.

As for it being a petty and distracting issue, it's absolutely true. I try to be as active on as many issues as I can find time for, this one just happen to be in our face this go round. I really wish that it had been passed this year so we could move on to the issues that really need attention.

The resolution is staring everyone right in the face: leave the current archery rules alone. Forget about changing them and move on to the other issues.

Bowhunters wrote those rules in the first place to protect the image of bowhunting; and now other bowhunters have to protect the rules that protect the image. Image is the single most important thing we have, because it took a good image to gain hunting opportunity in the first place and it will take a good public image to keep what we have.

Trying to change the archery rules and regulations is not PETTY. I have read and heard over and over again, "It is just a nock. It isn't important. I can't believe so much time is being wasted on it." If all that is true then let go of it. Prove that it isn't important by dropping the matter. IT caused a rift by rearing its' head in the first place; dropping it will allow the rift to start to mend and allow everyone to focus on hunting seasons, public outreach, etc. Important stuff.

[Miles]

Boy, these illuminated nocks must be something special...

[huntnnw]

how many times has a warden checked your nocks?  people who wanna use them wil

the decision makes 0 sense and its right along the lines of not allowing inline muzzys if anything the inlines are far more advantagous then allowing a stupid lighted nock that does s&^%$ to aid in harvest..

[Machias]

how many times has a warden checked your nocks?  people who wanna use them wil

the decision makes 0 sense and its right along the lines of not allowing inline muzzys if anything the inlines are far more advantagous then allowing a stupid lighted nock that does s&^%$ to aid in harvest..

Really, I didn't realize we could use inlines during archery season. 

[Curly]

inline muzzy's are allowed during ML.  I'm not quite getting the point.   

[Special T]

He's confusing the fact that some inlines have sealed primers and some do not.  A cap must be exposed to the weather, and for many in lines you must convert them to use percussion caps.