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Open Carry
« on: April 20, 2012, 01:23:46 PM »
Just thought I would start this up out of curiosity. First off Washington is an open carry state even without a CPL (unless you are a felon of course). and second I’m not trying to dig into people’s private lives or start a mud slinging match, this just seems to be a hot topic lately especially with that new bill that passed the house and is in the senate to allow nationwide concealed carry.

I for one fall into the sometimes category. Out hunting I normally have one in the open and occasionally walking to or from my car I may leave my jacket off. But I don’t all the time just cause I don’t feel like having every cop in the county called on my butt for doing nothing wrong.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 02:12:42 PM »
Hunting I carry openly. Around town I'd rather not anyone know I have it. :twocents:
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 02:19:44 PM »
Same

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 02:28:16 PM »
I do when at home.  Had the sheriff at my house twice because of it.  out working in the yard or whatever with my Glock on my hip.  Someone drives by and sees it and freaks out and calls 911.

The second time was one of their shift commanders or something like that and he assured me it wouldn't happen again and it hasn't.

When I leave my property, I conceal everytime.

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 02:34:45 PM »
personally i dont carry and don't think i ever will. too afraid i would use it when i might not have needed too..already been in one situation when i would have drawn on a drunk dude that came walking up to us with his pistol drawn and at 30 feet or so he put one in the chamber.he would of had a few holes in him if i would have had a side arm on me concealed or not. after a  moment the guy just turned out to be really drunk veteran and prolly didnt know what he was doing.

if i did carry i think i would carry as described in the previous posts.

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 03:32:45 PM »
Open carry, while legal and within your rights, is the surest way to get yourself shot, )most likely with your own weapon), and the most useful evidence of provocation that a prosecutor will use against you. of course i'm speaking of urban carry for the most part.

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 03:45:41 PM »
Open carry, while legal and within your rights, is the surest way to get yourself shot, )most likely with your own weapon), and the most useful evidence of provocation that a prosecutor will use against you. of course i'm speaking of urban carry for the most part.

Can you cite some evidence for this? I've never seen, read or heard of any.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »
Open carry, while legal and within your rights, is the surest way to get yourself shot, )most likely with your own weapon), and the most useful evidence of provocation that a prosecutor will use against you. of course i'm speaking of urban carry for the most part.

Can you cite some evidence for this? I've never seen, read or heard of any.

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 03:54:36 PM »
I open carry only when hunting. When I am not hunting I choose to conceal only because there have been too many incidents of LEO's hassling people even though it is legal. I don't have the money to put up a legal defense against a wrongful arrest/prosecution.

Open carry, while legal and within your rights, is the surest way to get yourself shot, )most likely with your own weapon), and the most useful evidence of provocation that a prosecutor will use against you. of course i'm speaking of urban carry for the most part.

Can you cite some evidence for this? I've never seen, read or heard of any.

The "you'll be targeted by criminals" and/or "you'll be shot with your own weapon" arguments come up every time open carry is discussed. I have seen it more times than I can count on this forum and others, and yet I have never seen anyone able to back up this claim with evidence. Maybe this one will be different...but I am not holding my breath.  ;)

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 03:57:07 PM »
When I hunt, I open carry...with a rifle or shotgun.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 04:34:12 PM »
[quote author=Atroxus link=topic=96512.msg1246672#msg1246672
The "you'll be targeted by criminals" and/or "you'll be shot with your own weapon" arguments come up every time open carry is discussed. I have seen it more times than I can count on this forum and others, and yet I have never seen anyone able to back up this claim with evidence. Maybe this one will be different...but I am not holding my breath.  ;)
[/quote]

Yeah I see it every time too and with the same results, I figured we could pour out that glass of kool-aid early this time!
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 05:05:00 PM »
I have a firearm on me or near me 99% of the time. Sometimes concealed sometimes not.   :tup:

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 05:31:47 PM »
Carrying concealed doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t be harassed by police either. I have been pulled over before with 2 guns on me, I told the cop right away and in a polite manner so I wouldn’t alarm him (obviously I told him I had a permit as well). I still got taken out of the car, detained, my guns taken by the cops (to check if they were stolen I think), and patted down by his partner. I was let go obviously and they gave me my guns back but still a pain in the butt. Just sayin
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2012, 11:58:57 PM »
its kinda funny, people saying, everytime this is brought up people keep saying the same thing, lol. maybe you are just not willing to listen to anything but your own opinion.  why dont you look up statistics with regards to police officers killed by firearms. a good percentage are killed with their own gun.

Want to open carry? so there you are in line at 7-11, open carry. a robber walks in, sees you and you are dead, or people in line behind you, see your gun, take your gun and again your dead. if they make you nervous and you so much as touch your gun, Aggrevated assault, your in jail..

You want to survive a gun fight? surprise goes along way towards that end.

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2012, 12:39:15 AM »
its kinda funny, people saying, everytime this is brought up people keep saying the same thing, lol. maybe you are just not willing to listen to anything but your own opinion.  why dont you look up statistics with regards to police officers killed by firearms. a good percentage are killed with their own gun.

Here is what I found:

Total number of officers killed from 2000-2009 (excluding 9-11)  - 530
Total killed with guns (Same chart as above)                               - 490
Total killed with “own weapon,” (includes one baton!)                 - 41

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2009/data/table_27.html

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2009/data/table_14.html

For a specific group of people that wade into dangerous situations with weapons strapped to them on a regular basis, that really isn't many of them being killed by their own weapons.

To give credit for where I found the sources of this info:
http://ncguns.blogspot.com/2012/04/rosenthal-lies-about-cops-killed-with.html
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