Federal and State Wildlife Agencies Destroying our Elk

[humanure]

Exactly! Selective and edge logging are great methods. I was criticising the logging methods from the early 1900's when their methods weren't being regulated. Hell, I probably wouldn't have seen as much elk growing up had it not been for the clearcut nearby where I lived then.

I don't disagree with making money(since I work to make money). But it's the old ethics-thrown-to-the-wayside-over-monetary-gain attitude that I critisize.

As far at the NE having the best hunting, I never disputed that either.

[TikkaT3-270Shortmag]

I think logging got a bad reputation for destroying or harming  habitat along streams. Things are much different these days due to "buffers" which are based on the level of stream or river it is.

[Special T]

I'm not naive and hate the logging industry. To live, we need that resource. But I am aware that they base their motives on money.

Exactly! Selective and edge logging are great methods. I was criticising the logging methods from the early 1900's when their methods weren't being regulated. Hell, I probably wouldn't have seen as much elk growing up had it not been for the clearcut nearby where I lived then.

Its hard to hate the loggin industry when so much is needed from them, and they can use proper techniques to maximise $$$ and environment.

Your often contradictory statements make it hard to believe you know much of what you are talking about, or why we benefit from your statements.

[humanure]

I don't think any of that is contradictory. The buffers and better methods were put in place because people saw how careless the logging industry was being. Like anything in life and industry, things have to be monitored. I don't feel the logging industry should be dismantled, but it needs to stay regulated and under a close eye. Even today logging companies break rules from time to time.

[villageidiot]

Not to worry.  The Logging industry is watched closer than you can imagine.  They can't make a single move without the contract administrator knowing about it.  If you see a bad logging job on federal or state land it is not the logger that is responsible. The logger only does what he is told by the federal or state.  They show up sometimes every single day to make sure the logger does not make one single wrong turn.  One logger I know even got a ticket from them for spraying a rock about the size of a softball trying to get his paint can to work that the forest service requires him to spray on the end of every single log.  Just last week  a friend got shut down for not having only 250 foot of hose on his hose reel instead of 500 feet.  Yes they are required to have all their fire equipment even now in the snow.  They are required to have a 300 gallon water tank with 500 ft. of hose.  At present the water freezes at night and by the way it takes 300 gallons of water to fill a 500 foot hose.  Brilliant!   Get one drop out the end and your out of water because the hose is full.    Whew