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Pointing vs. Aiming
« on: May 29, 2012, 01:49:40 PM »
This maybe a stupid question. I shoot an 870 Wingmaster 28'. Last year I really started duck hunting for the first time.

With the bead sight on the 870, I don't look at the bead, I look at the duck, shoulder the gun, point and shoot.

I rarely see the bead like you would an open sight or scope reticle.

Is this a bad habit?



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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 01:52:59 PM »
I don't see a problem with it but it is all personal preference. I don't really look at the bead but more past it and towards the bird as well. The only time I really use the bead is if I am water swatting a cripple. I have found if I look at the bead that I tend to shoot behind my target.  :twocents:
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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 02:02:50 PM »
Looking at the bead is bad form; you will tend to stop the gun if you look back at the bead.   The eyes stay on the target but you will still see the bead, you may not be aware of it but you see it.

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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 02:09:52 PM »
SO long as you know where the bead is and your mount is consistent, then the bead will be where it needs to be anyways...............focus on the target, leave the rest to the subconscious........

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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 02:25:33 PM »
See the ball; Hit the ball

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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 02:39:10 PM »
This maybe a stupid question. I shoot an 870 Wingmaster 28'. Last year I really started duck hunting for the first time.

With the bead sight on the 870, I don't look at the bead, I look at the duck, shoulder the gun, point and shoot.

I rarely see the bead like you would an open sight or scope reticle.

Is this a bad habit?

Not a bad habit at all....

This is how I learned to shoot trap with my 870.  I won quite a bit of money before I quit because of all the BS involved with the old codgers with 3000.00 Kreighoffs, and other assorted over priced guns bitching about me beating them.. I HAD TO BE CHEATING SOMEHOW!!!   :chuckle: :chuckle:

So, if you are hitting what you are shooting at, do not change one bit.  Also, do not let someone try and fix your shooting style... trust me...  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 06:52:07 PM »
"See the ball; Hit the ball"

I'm no good at golf or baseball. Got any others?  :chuckle:

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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 07:30:43 PM »
With shotguns it's focus on the bird and the barrel in your peripheral vision so to speak.   Check out Matt dryke at sunnydale range in sequim. 
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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2012, 12:32:52 AM »
shotguns point, rifles aim.

shoot with both eyes on target.  if you're doing it correctly you won't see the bead or feel recoil.  when possible shoot always shoot right to left (if you're shooting right handed, opposite if you're shooting left handed or course)    often the mistake for a right handed shooter is made trying to shoot let to right by shuffling feet when you should pivot, turning 270 degrees to keep the left foot the lead foot.

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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 10:16:12 AM »
It's only a Bad Habit if you are missing!   :chuckle:  I do much better duck hunting when I have no time to think and just take those quick point and shoot shots.

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Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 08:07:04 PM »
In a duck blind am an instinctive shooter, both eyes open and on target, never see the bead or remember the lead. On a trap range with trap gun I aim, always have. You can do it either way. As long as it works for you.

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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012, 09:43:10 PM »
I don't see a problem with it but it is all personal preference. I don't really look at the bead but more past it and towards the bird as well. The only time I really use the bead is if I am water swatting a cripple. I have found if I look at the bead that I tend to shoot behind my target.  :twocents:
:yeah: exactly what i was thinking, if it works, do it.  :tup: that is what i do, it is kind of like shooting instincts with a bow, plus it is faster to just pull up, swing, and pull the trigger, without having to aim as much. :twocents:
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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012, 10:55:02 PM »
This maybe a stupid question. I shoot an 870 Wingmaster 28'. Last year I really started duck hunting for the first time.

With the bead sight on the 870, I don't look at the bead, I look at the duck, shoulder the gun, point and shoot.

I rarely see the bead like you would an open sight or scope reticle.

Is this a bad habit?

This is perfect. Shoulder the gun the same way every time, point, shoot, follow through. Don't "aim" a shotgun at moving targets.


With shotguns it's focus on the bird and the barrel in your peripheral vision so to speak.   Check out Matt dryke at sunnydale range in sequim. 
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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012, 11:24:10 PM »
i shoot a lot of trap and id say no its not a bad habit

when i shoot trap or anything else with a shot gun i only see the beads for a split second to make sure my mount is proper then its all target doesnt matter if im shooting my 870 at upland birds or my $6000 krieghoff (sorry had to throw that in there for huntbear) at clays

you start trying to aim a shotgun or looking back at your beads "bead checking" after youve started to swing youll shoot behind everything


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Re: Pointing vs. Aiming
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 09:59:00 AM »
I would definately check out Sunnydell if you are interested in improving your shooting. Chuck passed away, but the last I heard Matt is still giving lessons (and his sister Ellen might be helping out for awhile).

 


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