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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 12:40:17 AM »
Dogs do not always raise their leg on point

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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 05:13:59 AM »
I agree.  The raising their leg thing is misleading.  In the pointing dog trial world, many judges like to see both feet on the ground, and many think it looks better to have a leg up.  Most dogs do both at different times.

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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2012, 06:23:16 AM »
Your pigeons may be called "Racing Homers", and all pigeons will "home", but the Species of pigeon that was a wild native pigeon of North America named Homing Pigeon was hunted to extiction by the early 20th century.  That's why I specified "TRUE Homing Pigeons".  The ones that are wild and kept domestically I've heard referred to as "Rats with Feathers".

Edit:  OOPS!  My Bad--on thinking about it, the extinct species was called the Passenger Pigeon. I still stand by my opinion that any pigeon except Mourning Doves falls into the Starling category, especially those recent escapees called Eurasian Collared Doves.  Many dog trainers raise the common pigeons to use for bird dog training, and they are excellent for that purpose.  When they go wild, they seek out barns, bridges, underpasses, etc. for nesting colonies.  Years ago, my grandmother became enamored with pure white pigeons, and acquired a pair and put them up in the henhouse.  She soon found out how quickly they multiply, and a pair of white pigeons does not reliably pass on the white color gene.  before long, the farm was overrun with pigeons of every color phase imaginable.  The love affair ended abruptly, and I can't recall what became of the birds.  One of my bird books says pigeons have been associated with humans for thousands of years, so their progeny is no doubt living around there someplace.

Not true. The Bandtail pigeon would not fall under a "Starling category" and I am pretty sure that WDFW don't think so since they have a hunting season.   




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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2012, 08:45:20 AM »
Your pigeons may be called "Racing Homers", and all pigeons will "home", but the Species of pigeon that was a wild native pigeon of North America named Homing Pigeon was hunted to extiction by the early 20th century.  That's why I specified "TRUE Homing Pigeons".  The ones that are wild and kept domestically I've heard referred to as "Rats with Feathers".

Edit:  OOPS!  My Bad--on thinking about it, the extinct species was called the Passenger Pigeon. I still stand by my opinion that any pigeon except Mourning Doves falls into the Starling category, especially those recent escapees called Eurasian Collared Doves.  Many dog trainers raise the common pigeons to use for bird dog training, and they are excellent for that purpose.  When they go wild, they seek out barns, bridges, underpasses, etc. for nesting colonies.  Years ago, my grandmother became enamored with pure white pigeons, and acquired a pair and put them up in the henhouse.  She soon found out how quickly they multiply, and a pair of white pigeons does not reliably pass on the white color gene.  before long, the farm was overrun with pigeons of every color phase imaginable.  The love affair ended abruptly, and I can't recall what became of the birds.  One of my bird books says pigeons have been associated with humans for thousands of years, so their progeny is no doubt living around there someplace.

Not true. The Bandtail pigeon would not fall under a "Starling category" and I am pretty sure that WDFW don't think so since they have a hunting season.

Never seen a Bandtail Pigeon.  I don't think they exist.  I'm surprised Washington doesn't have a Sasquatch Season, too!  :chuckle:
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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2012, 09:18:51 AM »
Never seen a Bandtail Pigeon.  I don't think they exist.  I'm surprised Washington doesn't have a Sasquatch Season, too!  :chuckle:

Are you serious? You must not get out in the woods much. I just saw some the other day. Always see a lot more in August and September. Definitely not as many as there used to be though.


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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2012, 09:33:38 AM »
GSP would be the cross I would think is most likely.

 :yeah:  Her facial features look just like a friend's GSP.

 :yeah: Might be an interesting cross, will she retrieve from the water?
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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2012, 10:10:28 AM »


GSP would be the cross I would think is most likely.

 :yeah:  Her facial features look just like a friend's GSP.

 :yeah: Might be an interesting cross, will she retrieve from the water?

So far only in shallow water, my grandpa has a very small pond that she plays an retrieves in.

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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2012, 12:20:23 PM »
Best way to not get throwed out is to get them to point with all four on the floor,Seen a judge throw out a wirehair that was backing with a foot up,set the foot down and got the "Thank you" as the judge rode away.
Have seen it happen to a dog that started out on three,transfer to four and then promptly got the rope.

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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2012, 03:44:25 PM »
Never seen a Bandtail Pigeon.  I don't think they exist.  I'm surprised Washington doesn't have a Sasquatch Season, too!  :chuckle:

Are you serious? You must not get out in the woods much. I just saw some the other day. Always see a lot more in August and September. Definitely not as many as there used to be though.

Just saw a half dozen or so fly over my house yesterday. 8)
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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2012, 05:34:36 PM »
Never seen a Bandtail Pigeon.  I don't think they exist.  I'm surprised Washington doesn't have a Sasquatch Season, too!  :chuckle:

Are you serious? You must not get out in the woods much. I just saw some the other day. Always see a lot more in August and September. Definitely not as many as there used to be though.

No, now that I'm closing in on 70, I don't get out in the woods much.  Even when I did, I never saw Bandtails.  These days I see lots of pigeons around the neighborhood, and they are all the invasive Eurasian Collards and Rock Doves.  The ones that get away avoid my yard like the plague for some reason!  ;)
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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2012, 05:40:30 PM »
Never seen a Bandtail Pigeon.  I don't think they exist.  I'm surprised Washington doesn't have a Sasquatch Season, too!  :chuckle:

Are you serious? You must not get out in the woods much. I just saw some the other day. Always see a lot more in August and September. Definitely not as many as there used to be though.

No, now that I'm closing in on 70, I don't get out in the woods much.  Even when I did, I never saw Bandtails.  These days I see lots of pigeons around the neighborhood, and they are all the invasive Eurasian Collards and Rock Doves.  The ones that get away avoid my yard like the plague for some reason!  ;)

Really? Wow. Back in the 80's we used to see thousands of them some days. Now you're doing good is you see 20 in a day. Hard to believe you've never seen even one!

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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2012, 08:14:56 PM »
You talking Mourning Doves, or Bandtails?  I hunted Mourning Doves from the late '60s into the early '90s.  It used to be a tradition for 3 of us to stake out a watering hole with our dogs every September 1st right at sundown, and for 20 minutes we couldn't load the shotguns fast enough.  Now we are old, and our dogs are dead, and we don't go any more.  It's no fun without a dog anyway.
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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2012, 08:20:25 PM »
You talking Mourning Doves, or Bandtails?  I hunted Mourning Doves from the late '60s into the early '90s.  It used to be a tradition for 3 of us to stake out a watering hole with our dogs every September 1st right at sundown, and for 20 minutes we couldn't load the shotguns fast enough.  Now we are old, and our dogs are dead, and we don't go any more.  It's no fun without a dog anyway.

Bandtails. Now I just looked at your profile and see you're from Wenatchee. If you have always hunted on the eastside, it would make sense that you haven't seen any bandtails. They're in western Washington, mainly. I did see one just a few miles of west of Cle Elum once. But I think that's about as far east as they go.


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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2012, 09:19:56 PM »
You talking Mourning Doves, or Bandtails?  I hunted Mourning Doves from the late '60s into the early '90s.  It used to be a tradition for 3 of us to stake out a watering hole with our dogs every September 1st right at sundown, and for 20 minutes we couldn't load the shotguns fast enough.  Now we are old, and our dogs are dead, and we don't go any more.  It's no fun without a dog anyway.

Bandtails. Now I just looked at your profile and see you're from Wenatchee. If you have always hunted on the eastside, it would make sense that you haven't seen any bandtails. They're in western Washington, mainly. I did see one just a few miles of west of Cle Elum once. But I think that's about as far east as they go.

That explains it.  Yep, I'm a dry lander.  I grew up in a country that was hot and humid in the summer and cold and humid in winter.  When I found Eastern Washington in the late '60s I thought I'd found heaven.  Been here ever since!

PS: Sorry we hijacked the thread--geez, the guy just asked a simple question!  Just shows how enjoyable this site is....
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Re: Using homing pigeons, good idea or bad?
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2012, 11:07:03 AM »
the images of a band tailed pigeon I found on google looked like 90% of the city pigeons in Seattle. What makes them different?
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