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Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« on: February 20, 2014, 07:15:07 PM »
So I'm trying to decide on barrel length,  I'm building in 556 and plan on using it to coyote hunting and fun shoot. I am going to free float the barrel and am pretty sure I'm going with a 12" fore grip unless I can be talked into a 15"

What are the advantages of an 18" or a 16", any advantage on a 15 vs 12" foregrip

Thanks in advance
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 07:28:10 PM »
Hardly any difference. If you want to do it right, go 18" with a rifle length gas system, 13.5" or longer handguard. It's a 18" with the performance of a twenty. How wrong can the MK12 be.  :tup:

Can't wait for the "Google Foo" types to get all spun up on a rifle length 18". :chuckle:

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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 07:38:41 PM »
I just got myself a dedicated dog gun. It's got a 16 inch barrel with a 13 inch hand guard. People will tell you 18's shoot better, but are harder to wield in the woods. 16's are "less accurate" but more maneuverable. I honestly don't think there is enough merit or difference to either argument to warrant any stress. I like the look of the 18's but would rather a bit more ease when hiking, as I enjoy doing a bit of that  :rolleyes:

I think you will be fine with whatever you do.


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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 07:40:04 PM »
I just got myself a dedicated dog gun. It's got a 16 inch barrel with a 13 inch hand guard. People will tell you 18's shoot better, but are harder to wield in the woods. 16's are "less accurate" but more maneuverable. I honestly don't think there is enough merit or difference to either argument to warrant any stress. I like the look of the 18's but would rather a bit more ease when hiking, as I enjoy doing a bit of that  :rolleyes:

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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 07:44:50 PM »
Some more food for thought...

So I have the 16". My buddy has a 20" and a 12.5" with suuuuper flash hider on the end. After finding ammo the guns like, we shoot groupings nearly identical. The only one that lacks a bit is the 12.5, but it is not free floating, and has cheap glass on it. However, while the groupings are similar, I have a lightweight barrel on my gun, and he has heavy barrel on his 20", the weight is drastically different. you can easily notice just lifting them. I would say the length isn't as big of an issue as the weight.

I'm sure some other guys with more experience will chime in though.

Long story short, don't sweat it.

And the longer foregrip is sexy. Do it!!!

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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2014, 07:49:38 PM »
Hardly any difference. If you want to do it right, go 18" with a rifle length gas system, 13.5" or longer handguard. It's a 18" with the performance of a twenty. How wrong can the MK12 be.  :tup:

Can't wait for the "Google Foo" types to get all spun up on a rifle length 18". :chuckle:

 :yeah: I went 18" rifle length and the gun shoots very well.
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2014, 07:52:29 PM »
 :) I HAD A 16,  WHAT? :chuckle: I like 20.
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2014, 07:55:43 PM »
Some more food for thought...

So I have the 16". My buddy has a 20" and a 12.5" with suuuuper flash hider on the end. After finding ammo the guns like, we shoot groupings nearly identical. The only one that lacks a bit is the 12.5, but it is not free floating, and has cheap glass on it. However, while the groupings are similar, I have a lightweight barrel on my gun, and he has heavy barrel on his 20", the weight is drastically different. you can easily notice just lifting them. I would say the length isn't as big of an issue as the weight.

I'm sure some other guys with more experience will chime in though.

Long story short, don't sweat it.

And the longer foregrip is sexy. Do it!!!
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 08:57:51 PM »
If you are going to run a can, my experience is run the 16" with mid length gas.  No can, go 16" carbine gas, of 18" mid length gas.
This is my recommendation after shooting well over 100,000  rounds through AR-15/ M16 platforms.

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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 09:00:28 PM »
I prefer a 18" barrel myself.
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 09:29:36 PM »
I had an 18" bull free-float and it shot great.
I was really heavy and that probably helped it on the bench or bipod.
I traded for a 16" HB, and it shoots the same, but carries (and if you need to swing on a dog coming in fast)much better.
Barrel quality, chamber, muzzle(try to avoid 'gotta have tacticool!' FH or brake) and twist are going to have more influence than the length.
Also, the latest trend to have collapsible buttstock and picatinny EVERYTHING is not helping accuracy at all.
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 10:03:16 PM »
I have 16" barrels and 20" barrels on my ARs, and can tell very little difference in weight.  My lightest AR is the 450 Bushmaster.  That big hole in the barrel takes off a lot of weight!  :chuckle:  With a low-profile gas block, you can use any length forearm you want.  A forearm that hides most of the barrel looks sexy!  :tup:
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2014, 10:29:52 PM »
in my opinion the 18 is the best compromise between portability and muzzle noise.

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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2014, 10:36:53 PM »
You might consider the twist rate as well as the length. :twocents:
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Re: Ar build 16" vs 18" barrel
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2014, 10:44:05 PM »
A 7 twist will cover it all  8), 8's are great  :tup: and 9's. Well, you can have the 9's. :o

 


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