I hate to open this can again but.....

[jackelope]

Are they also going to ban hunting over food plots? Or just baiting?

My friend in Pennsylvania has a farm and a few food plots. Baiting is illegal but hunting over food plots is not.
They consider that "habitat improvement" and not baiting. He has to pull any baits 30 days before season. Scents are legal, mock scrapes, etc, just no actual bait piles. He uses a lot of mock scrape drips this time of year in front of his dozen or so trail cameras.

[Todd_ID]

Since I've been getting a bit of a vote in this for the past 5 years or so, this has been brought up every year in every meeting I've attended.  Thus far it's not been a real issue; it gets discussed and quickly passed off as not feasible.  It'll likely happen in the next 50 years, but I won't vote for this anytime soon.

[wannabhntr]

be curiouse to see if it did go thru how many of the bottom dwellers on here start turning in people in search of there 10 pts?........ like others have for baiting bears.

Bottom dwellers?? Really? I have two feeders set up right now that my kids hunt over. I don't want to see WDFW ban baiting anymore than the next guy. That being said, if they made it illegal tomorrow the feeders would come down. For you to refer to law abiding ethical hunters as bottom feeders paints a nice picture of who you are. Hopefully the anti's that keep an eye on this forum aren't as ignorant as you and understand that not all hunters have your morals and integrity. Or lack there of.........

[chester]

I think he was referring to the people trying to get 10 PTs on anything and everything they can.

Not the people baiting.

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[gonehuntin68]

They are gonna ban elk calling too. Can't use calls anymore.

[JBG]

It wouldn't be a bad thing.  People would have to actually hunt again vs. sitting on a bait pile waiting until they get hungry.

Have you sat next to corn or any other feed while shooting ducks?

Well yea but I didnt take the corn out there in a wheel barrow.  Hunting on a crop that hasnt been illegally downed is the same as hunting a water source or naturally existing food source.
Now that being said I really dont care how you want to harvest your deer.  But lets be honest its nothing like hunting a corn pond or open water source during a freeze up.  Good luck and I hope WDFW doesn't take that technique away.  However if they do maybe view it as a chance to use what nature has provided and become even more connected to your quarry and nature itself.  Lots of people in lots of places even Washington are able to harvest deer without the aid of bait.

[CAMPMEAT]

I'd start feeding the chickens ........ they love cracked corn.

[WARHORSE]

Just like anything else (baiting) has a different meaning to each person. I have baited deer in the past and yes it was a slam dunk. Its not for me. What does bother me is seeing bins upon bins of apples being dumped. I have seen first hand what this does. It is putting a hurt on mature bucks!  Do it during rifle season early archery and muzzle loader thats fine. More power to the elderly, disabled and youth but when every tom dick and harry is dumping 20-50 or more bins of apples in november its gonna hurt the herd!

[h2ofowlr]

It wouldn't be a bad thing.  People would have to actually hunt again vs. sitting on a bait pile waiting until they get hungry.

Way to support your fellow hunters and the methods they choose. Didn't you agree and give a big thumbs up in "change to spring bear bunting" thread? No different really. Spring bear has a pretty good success rate without allowing baiting.

A depradation hunt vs. general season baiting when one is trying to curb the bears from peeling trees.  I have been drawn and hunted the spring season and ran across 50+ freshly peeled trees.  I saw first hand all the damage they did.  I took many pictures of them as well.  This would be a good application for bait use.  It's a select few that are involved in this hunt.
I have also witnessed first hand what bait has done for deer and elk hunting.  I have seen huge bait piles and baited areas where you would see the animals pile off one property to head to another to hit the bait.  Unless you yourself bait, the deer that reside on one piece of property will head to the next to be harvested.  If you try to pattern animals through frequent scouting, setting up bait locations will shift those patterns.
People think they own these animals when they come onto there property in many cases.
Case note, we ran into this in eastern Wash.  Had a nice mule deer come out of a private piece.  It had gone about 70 yards onto DNR land.  We were on the hill about 230 yards up and my buddy dropped it.  As we were heading down, we saw several guys cross the fence and grab the deer and drag it back onto the private property.  The argument ensued.  They had been feeding it and it was so and so's deer and they were going to shoot it.  Bad experience with people that bait deer and elk.  If you run into a baited location on public land, the individuals who are baiting think they own the game hitting there bait piles.  I wish it wasn't the case , but it is.  I just don't support it.
Same goes for waterfowl, those that plant there land with 100's of acres of corn, millet, barley, etc. shift the flyway and remove equal access to those birds.  You have scab lands around Moses lake that have been planted, flooded, etc that pull the birds from the potholes.  You will have 14k- 40k birds sitting on some of these baited locations for a select few.  If they were not allowed to bait, there location may be as good as the next location.  With the only exception being the amount of hunting pressure.

[Jellymon]

They are gonna ban elk calling too. Can't use calls anymore.

Don't forget the bathroom permit you're going to need if you gotta go in the woods. All the proceeds will go to unnecessary crap in Bellevue.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Are they also going to ban hunting over food plots? Or just baiting?

Man just imagine if that happened back east ..that would just kill the T.V hunting industry and then I would love to see how many BIG Deer they can kill 

[idahohuntr]

Are they also going to ban hunting over food plots? Or just baiting?

My friend in Pennsylvania has a farm and a few food plots. Baiting is illegal but hunting over food plots is not.
They consider that "habitat improvement" and not baiting. He has to pull any baits 30 days before season. Scents are legal, mock scrapes, etc, just no actual bait piles. He uses a lot of mock scrape drips this time of year in front of his dozen or so trail cameras.

In the proposed alternatives WDFW put out on this topic it included banning baiting for outfitters only, banning all baiting (including food plots), banning baiting but allowing food plots, and maybe a few other alternatives...just curious if they went nuclear (everything)...or if it was one of the milder alternatives?

[wannabhntr]

I think he was referring to the people trying to get 10 PTs on anything and everything they can.

Not the people baiting.

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I know.

[grundy53]

It wouldn't be a bad thing.  People would have to actually hunt again vs. sitting on a bait pile waiting until they get hungry.

Have you sat next to corn or any other feed while shooting ducks?

Well yea but I didnt take the corn out there in a wheel barrow.  Hunting on a crop that hasnt been illegally downed is the same as hunting a water source or naturally existing food source.
Now that being said I really dont care how you want to harvest your deer.  But lets be honest its nothing like hunting a corn pond or open water source during a freeze up.  Good luck and I hope WDFW doesn't take that technique away.  However if they do maybe view it as a chance to use what nature has provided and become even more connected to your quarry and nature itself.  Lots of people in lots of places even Washington are able to harvest deer without the aid of bait.

Naturally existing corn? ....

[vandeman17]

It wouldn't be a bad thing.  People would have to actually hunt again vs. sitting on a bait pile waiting until they get hungry.

Have you sat next to corn or any other feed while shooting ducks?

Well yea but I didnt take the corn out there in a wheel barrow.  Hunting on a crop that hasnt been illegally downed is the same as hunting a water source or naturally existing food source.
Now that being said I really dont care how you want to harvest your deer.  But lets be honest its nothing like hunting a corn pond or open water source during a freeze up.  Good luck and I hope WDFW doesn't take that technique away.  However if they do maybe view it as a chance to use what nature has provided and become even more connected to your quarry and nature itself.  Lots of people in lots of places even Washington are able to harvest deer without the aid of bait.

Naturally existing corn? ....