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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2019, 01:56:01 PM »
Tell me if this is not confusing 🤔


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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2019, 01:58:08 PM »
Non sheep hunter and or non educated on lamb tips and broomed off rams is asking for trouble.


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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2019, 03:49:07 PM »
I’m assuming wdfw will have a sheep test like they do for goats and bears.

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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2019, 04:22:08 PM »
Actually it looks pretty easy to tell the difference. If it's close and you're not sure, don't shoot. Plenty of sheep out there so just pick another one to take.

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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2019, 04:31:06 PM »
I think if you've harvested a sheep already your input doesn't count.... :rolleyes: :chuckle:

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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2019, 04:44:49 PM »
Bobcat
 not everyone is a expert like you on sheep hunting. I’ve only been on probably ten sheep hunts and trust me people get excited and when the see a ram let alone a young ram with lamb tip just hitting that 3/4 stage.


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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2019, 05:45:59 PM »
Well, first of all I'm far from an expert on sheep. I don't know what else to say. Do you have a suggestion as to what should or could be done differently? I don't really see how it's all that much different than being restricted to "true spike" only when hunting elk in some units, or 3 point minimum for mule deer. I guess if hunters aren't capable of following the restrictions then they just shouldn't offer the tags, is that what you're saying?

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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2019, 05:56:48 PM »
I’m saying that sooner or later someone will make a mistake and shoot a mature ram. I’m for a few cull tags on ewes if it will help the cough issue. But shooting the future potential breeding stock makes no sense. Why not start a new unit? Maybe transplant a few younger ram for different genetic in different units. Better yet why don’t they just tell us why. A short little blurb in the pamphlet explaining there reason would go a long ways.


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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2019, 06:03:54 PM »
Does this help to answer the question?

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The population of bighorn sheep in the Yakima Canyon (“Umtanum” and “Selah” hunt units) continues to decline from a series of lamb recruitment failures subsequent to the pneumonia die-off of 2009-10. The department plans to capture, test, and remove animals likely to be the source of the continued pathogen spread. Success in this effort is much more likely if the herd is first reduced (and that reduction may, in part, help remove the pathogen spreaders). Thus, a substantial, temporary increase in permits (primarily for ewes) is proposed to reduce the population to a size where spreaders can be found and selectively removed.

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Revise permit numbers in the Selah Butte, Umtanum, Cleman, Quilomene, and Vulcan Mountain bighorn sheep herds.

Policy issue(s) and expected outcome:

•Sustainable bighorn sheep populations
•Recover bighorns in the Yakima Canyon where very few lambs have been recruited since 2012, by removing enough animals to allow an effective program of identifying and removing pathogen spreaders
•Providing hunter opportunity

Fiscal impacts of agency implementation:

No fiscal impacts beyond the status quo.Public involvement process used and what you learned:The department notified approximately 12,000 individuals and organizations informing them of the opportunity to provide comment on the proposed regulation amendments. Additionally, these individuals and organizations were informed of the opportunity to provide verbal testimony at the March 1-2, 2019 Commission meeting in Spokane.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/about/commission/meetings/2019/04/apr04_14_summary.pdf
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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2019, 06:23:33 PM »
so as i read it  thinning the herd to  be able to do something about sick sheep ?

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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2019, 06:46:04 PM »
I hope 🤞 it works


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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2019, 07:34:37 PM »
I’m confident in my ability to tell the difference and will be donating an app fee.

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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2019, 08:06:12 PM »
I'm no sheep Bio but I did sleep at a Holiday inn express last night and it seems stupid to thin the heard like that so it's easier to identify the sick ones so they then can kill them.
There has to be a better way to do that
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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2019, 08:21:08 PM »
I'm no sheep Bio but I did sleep at a Holiday inn express last night and it seems stupid to thin the heard like that so it's easier to identify the sick ones so they then can kill them.
There has to be a better way to do that
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Re: Sheep tags
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2019, 03:44:24 PM »
Too many sheep. The areas they are in are small. The herds don't have that much room to expand.

Well, I can say that I've spent 20 plus days the last 2 years in both those two areas specifically targeting sheep and this is as far from the truth as can be. There is definately not "too many sheep".I don't know how familiar you are with the canyon sheep, but the number of juvenile rams isn't even close to the number in the Clemans area.

 


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