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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2019, 07:23:20 PM »
Pretty obvious they are up to no good..no orange, no time for pics, no gutting, ...like Karl said...shoot and grab ... before the land owner knows what's going on they are gone...
wow...can you please tell me what type of PC you have to be able to see and discern all of that info you have ?  all I see are a couple guys at the back of a truck.  OP says they don't even know who owns the land ????  I may be totally wrong but cant glean much information from the post

No PC but reasonable suspicion based on the information I have and pretty sure the local gamie would agree.. enough to stop and I'd the truck and occupants....at a minimum contact the house in the area to find the property owner. Because alot of times property owners don't know a crime was committed until they are notified...or I guess you can turn a blind eye to possible criminal activity, let them continue to poach and tresspass, and live in your secluded little world..to each there own.
all I ways saying was with the OP there was no way a reasonable person could determine what was possibly going on.  pics of a couple guys behind a truck, misspelled words and a confusing story.  OP said its trust land so it's not private.  He never said in the first post where the shot came from.  its obvious they are not wearing hunter orange but there is no way to tell what they are doing.  He finally verified that in his last post after I said I was confused as to what was happening.  and yes I will continue to live in my secluded little world not assuming what other people are doing until I have proof of that.  I don't turn a blind eye to criminal activity but I don't spout what I think is happening without some facts.  Reasonable suspicion my ass...if a reasonable person read the original post they would be as confused as 99.9% of the rest of us are
I guess since I can’t spell on my phone and it autocorrects that deletes all credibility I have... good to know.

Also this is land in a trust and is most certainly private property.

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2019, 07:34:39 PM »
Trust your gut. Call it in. Provide what you know factually. For me, easy as that.

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2019, 07:40:31 PM »
Trust your gut. Call it in. Provide what you know factually. For me, easy as that.
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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2019, 07:42:14 PM »
Pretty obvious they are up to no good..no orange, no time for pics, no gutting, ...like Karl said...shoot and grab ... before the land owner knows what's going on they are gone...
wow...can you please tell me what type of PC you have to be able to see and discern all of that info you have ?  all I see are a couple guys at the back of a truck.  OP says they don't even know who owns the land ????  I may be totally wrong but cant glean much information from the post

No PC but reasonable suspicion based on the information I have and pretty sure the local gamie would agree.. enough to stop and I'd the truck and occupants....at a minimum contact the house in the area to find the property owner. Because alot of times property owners don't know a crime was committed until they are notified...or I guess you can turn a blind eye to possible criminal activity, let them continue to poach and tresspass, and live in your secluded little world..to each there own.
all I ways saying was with the OP there was no way a reasonable person could determine what was possibly going on.  pics of a couple guys behind a truck, misspelled words and a confusing story.  OP said its trust land so it's not private.  He never said in the first post where the shot came from.  its obvious they are not wearing hunter orange but there is no way to tell what they are doing.  He finally verified that in his last post after I said I was confused as to what was happening.  and yes I will continue to live in my secluded little world not assuming what other people are doing until I have proof of that.  I don't turn a blind eye to criminal activity but I don't spout what I think is happening without some facts.  Reasonable suspicion my ass...if a reasonable person read the original post they would be as confused as 99.9% of the rest of us are
I guess since I can’t spell on my phone and it autocorrects that deleteIs all credibility I have... good to know.

Also this is land in a trust and is most certainly private property.
hey lets take a time out here...i'm not saying anybody is wrong or doesn't have credibility.  all I am asking is go back and read the original post .  look at that and with just that information what could a reasonable person determine from that---IMHO nothing as there is not enough information/picture evidence to make a determination.  I'm not saying that the people you saw did anything legal but with the limited info we had from the original post there was no way anyone could make a determination on what was right/legal or what was wrong/illegal.  I despise poaching and was just saying by reading the original post that there was no way a reasonable person could determine legality or not.  I've been on the site long enough to see enough arm-chair quarterbacks to give their opinions.  All I am saying is that reading the original post and looking at the pics you really couldn't tell what was going on.  Turn their asses in and hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if they are found to have poached a deer
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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2019, 08:02:35 PM »
Whats with you people calling the damn gamies, did you actually see a crime?

Have some facts!!!! I had the gamies called on me yet again this weekend!!! By POINT HUNTERS!!!! No laws were broken and the two yahoos wasted a gamies time...  it gets old with this eyes in the woods crap... 
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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2019, 08:04:08 PM »
The gamies time is meant to be spent investigating concerns.  I see nothing wrong with a concerned hunter asking for a gamie to do their job.

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2019, 08:08:43 PM »
Most crimes are solved because concerned people call in suspicious activity. Not everyone is going to know for sure if a crime has been committed. So the prudent thing to do is report it..

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2019, 08:11:55 PM »
The gamies time is meant to be spent investigating concerns.  I see nothing wrong with a concerned hunter asking for a gamie to do their job.

So you call the cops when someone is speeding?  Every time you hear a gunshot in the woods?  Seeing a crime, and maybe a crime are two different entities
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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2019, 08:13:49 PM »
Most crimes are solved because concerned people call in suspicious activity. Not everyone is going to know for sure if a crime has been committed. So the prudent thing to do is report it..

Prudent thing is to mind your own business sometimes too.   Wear the other shoe sometime and you might feel a different way. 
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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2019, 08:14:35 PM »
It's not hurting anything to report it and maybe some good will come of it.

On one hand, nothing comes from it, no harm no foul.
On the other, maybe this leads to some poaching busts.

Either way based on what the OP thinks happened, it's worth reporting then the authorities can decide what to do next.

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2019, 08:17:32 PM »
If they didn't gut it then they were up to no good.

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2019, 08:17:52 PM »
The gamies time is meant to be spent investigating concerns.  I see nothing wrong with a concerned hunter asking for a gamie to do their job.

So you call the cops when someone is speeding?  Every time you hear a gunshot in the woods?  Seeing a crime, and maybe a crime are two different entities

Yes people call 911 for speeders, gun shots in the woods, barking dogs, etc...it doesn't hurt to report something.

Sometimes those waste of time calls actually turn into a serious crime..the speeding car is stolen, the gun shots in the woods was a murder, the dog is barking cause his owner is dead...those are all personal experience scenarios..so yes, reporting suspicious activity is a good idea.

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2019, 08:18:52 PM »
Most crimes are solved because concerned people call in suspicious activity. Not everyone is going to know for sure if a crime has been committed. So the prudent thing to do is report it..

Prudent thing is to mind your own business sometimes too.   Wear the other shoe sometime and you might feel a different way.

So if you see a car swerving all over the road you just say it isn't your problem? After all, you don't know for certain if they're drunk or not. Maybe they're just lost and looking for the street signs. Never mind the innocent family that gets crashed into by the drunk driver, it's none of your business  :rolleyes:

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2019, 08:19:08 PM »
If someone saw me do something they thought was potentially against the law, I'd have no problem talking with a game officer as I'm in no sort of trouble and get it sorted out, may be a small inconvenience but as hunters I see it as our duty to do all we can in the upholding of laws in the woods, after all we are the number one contributors to conservation. We have the most eyes in the woods and each poacher we can stop because of suspicious activity is a victory in my book, our wildlife needs our help. Props to @BULLBLASTER for giving it a call in! :tup: Best of luck to all out still hunting!

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Re: Fairly certain I just saw some shady deer shooting
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2019, 08:19:49 PM »
Whats with you people calling the damn gamies, did you actually see a crime?

Have some facts!!!! I had the gamies called on me yet again this weekend!!! By POINT HUNTERS!!!! No laws were broken and the two yahoos wasted a gamies time...  it gets old with this eyes in the woods crap...

Why did they call the game cops on you? What was the concern?
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