collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Truck noise troubleshooting  (Read 1186 times)

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Truck noise troubleshooting
« on: October 28, 2020, 05:54:50 PM »
So, my 2000 Silverado started acting up today and hoping the pros here can help again.  I'm getting a noise that starts at about 40 mph and definitely noticeable at 60-70.  I can't tell where it's coming from, up front I think.  It sounds like a flat tire or a plastic fender well rubbing, but I checked both and everything looks fine.

It isn't affected by braking or putting the truck in neutral while moving.  When I go over a bump, it gets louder when the truck sinks down on the shocks and less when it is up on the shocks (as I go over the bump).  I would say it's more of a noise than vibration although wen I go over the bump it gets louder and a low vibration.  Nothing through the steering wheel or brake pedal though.

So, I'm thinking bearings or u-joints, but the neutral thing makes me think not u-joints and I don't really know what I'm doing anyway.

I'm going to lift the front and wiggle and turn the wheels to see if anything obvious jumps out.  Any troubleshooting advice?  I'm headed to MT in a few days and was going to leave this truck for Mrs. Stein to drive so I want to fix it asap.

Thanks in advance.

Offline rtspring

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 5380
  • Location: Hermiston Oregon
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2020, 06:03:59 PM »
Just fixed a problem like this on a f-150 up in the mtns.  Turns out it was a strut! Damn thing threw us for a spin trying to find the noise.  Have you checked your shocks?
I kill elk and eat elk, when I'm not, I'm thinking about killing elk and eating elk.

It doesn't matter what you think...

The Whiners suck!!

Offline Skyvalhunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 14212
  • Location: The valley/Methow
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2020, 06:08:41 PM »
Can you tell where it's coming from? Can someone ride in the bed to listen for location. Wouldn't rule out u joint. Are your u joints greasable? Usually they will clunk and you will get a vibration. Have you jacked the wheel up checked for wheel movement from side to side?

Offline mazama

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 509
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2020, 06:22:44 PM »
On my ford,longbed with a 2 piece driveline it was the rubber that goes around a berring,started vibration just wore out with age.

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2020, 06:28:30 PM »
I THINK it's the driver wheel bearing.  It makes a faint noise when I spin the wheel and the other side doesn't.  Neither side had any play, shocks look fine.  I might peek at the u-joint to see if I see anything but if I accelerated or put it in neutral it didn't seem to change the noise at all and I would think that would be noticeable based on the last u-joint I replaced years ago.

It's $130 to see if the wheel bearing is the culprit.

Offline ghosthunter

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+13)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 5964
  • Location: Mount Vernon WA
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2020, 06:31:47 PM »
Had same issue with my Nissan Frontier, 100k

Sounded like a flat.
Needed new struts and shocks. Was told that caused cupping in the tires. Three treads one in middle worn lower.

Also check for broken plastic mud flaps.

 :tup:
GHOST CAMP "We Came To Hunt"
Proud Parent of A United States Marine

We are all traveling from Birth to the Packing House. ( Broken Trail)

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2020, 06:37:58 PM »
Here is the noise the wheel makes when I spin it.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Crunchy

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 4435
  • Location: Puyallup
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2020, 06:43:57 PM »
Drive line or carrier bearing?

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2020, 06:49:41 PM »
Sounds like its coming from the hub.  Is that the carrier?  I was thinking about replacing the whole hub.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2020, 06:50:55 PM »
Is there any way to check driveline ujoints without removing them?  Maybe jack rear, put in neutral and spin both rear wheels?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Skyvalhunter

  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 14212
  • Location: The valley/Methow
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2020, 06:56:35 PM »
You should be able to Jack the rear up turn wheels one direction the look for slack at the u joint or carriage bearing. Alot or time shifting from drive to reverse and back will result in a clunking noise in a bad u joint

Online KNOPHISH

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 1011
  • Location: Auburn
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2020, 07:06:19 PM »
I got sorta the same thing but only when I hit 70mph. I'd describe mine as a vibration or humming on a 05 Silverado. Tried tire pressure, rotation & rebalance but still there. Shop that put on driveline said bring it in but that was only 5 years ago with no hard 4x4ing. I'd think that would cover u-joints too unless they messed up. Prolly due for shocks but would that cause a vibration? 195k miles on her.
I have Man Chit to do

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2020, 07:09:26 PM »
Thanks Skyval, I'll try that tomorrow although a clunking noise when shifting a Chev into gear won't be a new thing.  I'll listen for a different clunk or have my kids shift and I'll look. 

This truck has launched boats many times, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the rear u-joint, but I am pretty careful with keeping the truck out of the water and rinsing and it looks ok from the outside and isn't the greasable type.

I'm 70% sure it's the wheel bearing and in my line of home mechanics, that's a pretty high probability.  I'll check other things like joints, shocks and the tire surfaces when it's daylight out and go from there.

Thanks.

Offline Fl0und3rz

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 47084
  • Location: E. WA
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2020, 07:38:46 PM »
My guess is u-joint, which makes sense only happening under load, at certain speeds, or with certain deflection. On a driveline, you should be able to put in neutral with parking brake on and check at the tail shaft, drive shaft end and the drive shaft, differential end.  Expect there to be no slop in those joints. 

Offline MR5x5

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 362
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2020, 09:18:36 AM »
U-Joints - Grab the biggest screw driver you have, jam it in there an reef/twist on it.  They should not move.

Carrier Bearing - located along the drive shaft, attached to the frame - basically additional support for the drive shaft.  Push up and down on it. It should be tight but they are harder to verify.  They absolutely make a whirring noise as they go out.  Remember, the "putting it in neutral" test does not stop the driveshaft from spinning, it just unloads it from the tyranny.

Wheel bearing making noise seems like a pretty good indicator.  Especially if you have play in the wheel when wiggling it top to bottom while elevated.

Good luck.

Offline Woodchuck

  • GO TEAM!!!
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • Explorer
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 11402
  • Location: Walla Walla
  • HuntWA Woodblock
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2020, 09:51:03 AM »
Sounds like its coming from the hub.  Is that the carrier?  I was thinking about replacing the whole hub.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
00 Silverado, uses a hub/bearing assembly on the front. They go through them regularly to say the least. Very very very likely your culprit.  :twocents:
Antlered rabbit tastes like chicken


Inuendo, wasn't he an Italian proctoligist?

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+23)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 43434
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: WSB RMGA NRA RMEF BHA
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2020, 10:04:23 AM »
Sounds like its coming from the hub.  Is that the carrier?  I was thinking about replacing the whole hub.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
00 Silverado, uses a hub/bearing assembly on the front. They go through them regularly to say the least. Very very very likely your culprit.  :twocents:

That's a hub. I replaced 7 of them in my old 2002 Silverado. I got pretty good at them. Theoretically the noise should get louder when you're turning gradually to the right if it's a left hub.
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Online Stein

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 8148
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2020, 09:19:20 PM »
OK, follow up post.  If you guessed the wheel bearing, you are correct!

If you guessed the u-joint, you are correct too!  Lucky me!

I replaced the hub assembly and the steady noise went away.  Surprisingly, the vibration over bumps didn't.  Before I did the hub, I put it back in the air and checked the rear, driveline and both joints and everything looked fine.  I spun the wheels and driveline and it all looked good.

So, I dropped the driveline and sure enough the front joint was bad.  That surprises me because I've only messed with the rear one that ends up in the water a couple times a year launching at low tide.  Back one was fine, front was bound up.

Back to the store, a bit of cussing and hammering and it's all back together, no noise, no vibration, good as new.  Thanks to Chevy for having 157 driveline/yoke combinations and using a different u-joint for every one, that makes finding the right part real awesome.  Aluminum shaft, steel yoke, extended cab, 4x4, 3 door (early year production vs 4 door), 1.063 diameter, non-greaseable, one-piece shaft, no center bearing, transmission side for the win.

Offline Fl0und3rz

  • Forum Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2010
  • Posts: 47084
  • Location: E. WA
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2020, 09:42:34 PM »
lol

Let me tell you about my $400 power steering pulley.

Offline Alchase

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 16109
  • Location: Tinker AFB, OK
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2020, 09:58:34 PM »
Glad you figured it out!  :tup:


I had a similar issue with my 1998 1988 Silverado. Shortly after I bought it in 2001. I would hear a rhythmic thump, thump, thump, low in noise level.

I asked during the test drive about the rythmic noise.
The dealer "Emerald Motors" said it was common the that year of Chevy.

Within a short time, it got much worse.
When I turned to the left it would get even more pronounced.

Had my Spicer U-joints checked out at an independent shop. They were fine.

Then we opened the rear end, and multiple teeth fell out. It had a chunk missing with many teeth from the ring gear. The weird part is the gear oil was pristine, no noticeable shavings.  :bash:

So the dealer,  that I bought it from "Emerald Motors" on meridian in Puyallup, I can only infer,

Took the rear end cover off.
Saw the problem, and replaced the broken teeth back in the punkin, and refilled the gear
oil.

Definitely tried to cover it up.

I confronted him about it, and he lied his ass off, then when called out, threatening to call the police. Said he felt threatened.

Well I suppose he "might" have felt threatened,  :dunno:
I can neither confirm nor deny bodily harm was implied.  :dunno:



I had a detroit locker installed.

Still does not dismiss "Emerald Motors" and that snivelling owner are a ripoff.

I stand by that claim.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2020, 10:07:31 PM by Alchase »
Only 2 defining forces sacrificed themselves for you:
The American Soldier and Jesus Christ. One died for your freedom, the other for your soul.

My rock,
He trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
Psalm 144.1

Offline Zardoz

  • Political Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Sep 2012
  • Posts: 14978
  • Location: Kelso, WA
  • Groups: NRA,GOA
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2020, 06:48:12 PM »
Glad you got it resolved.    :tup: I was going to offer up that it was the Muffler Bearing causing the problem..... :chuckle:
“It is the responsibility of the patriot to protect his country from its government.”—Thomas Paine

Certa Bonum Certamen

Offline deerlick

  • Non-Hunting & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Feb 2009
  • Posts: 222
Re: Truck noise troubleshooting
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2020, 10:04:53 PM »
Make sure you check the blinker fluid too

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Hanson Fish Co Plated Thread by b0bbyg
[Today at 09:38:30 PM]


2020 Deer post em here by Grayson_Everett
[Today at 09:23:03 PM]


2021 WY ELK DRAW by carpsniperg2
[Today at 09:19:55 PM]


2021 archery season proposal by elkchaser54
[Today at 09:18:19 PM]


ISO Yamaha pw 50 by WARHORSE
[Today at 09:14:50 PM]


Recommendations for Summer Lake Vacations- Cabins/House rentals preferred by Westside88
[Today at 09:12:32 PM]


Kelly cache hauler by labsetters
[Today at 09:10:41 PM]


Replacement goose heads by full choke
[Today at 08:44:07 PM]


Wts wtt Springfield xdm 3.8 9mm 19+1 $425 by Bandocknr
[Today at 08:26:14 PM]


Fly fishing Florida keys by idaho guy
[Today at 08:19:46 PM]


Nutria Rat Knockout Video by High Climber
[Today at 08:14:24 PM]


Sell: NIB franchi instinct 12ga by carpsniperg2
[Today at 08:00:30 PM]


School me on Roosevelt winter rainbows. by Ridgeratt
[Today at 07:59:21 PM]


38 super brass and Dillon square deal b caliber conversion 38 super by BigVinn
[Today at 07:59:18 PM]


Calling Cougars? by coachteeter
[Today at 07:57:55 PM]


Travel trailer advice by Hunter mike
[Today at 07:44:04 PM]


WTB Weight Set by 7mmfan
[Today at 07:27:30 PM]


Trade/Co-op reloading stuff by ELKBURGER
[Today at 07:21:08 PM]


FS Green Mountain Davy Thermal Blanket by BD1
[Today at 07:19:30 PM]


Luxe tipi tent by opie_250
[Today at 07:05:05 PM]