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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2021, 07:42:40 PM »
Thereís no flies on either the .308 or 30-06. Of course there is a legitimate reason to go with the .308, itís that you canít get the finest hunting rifle ever made, the M99 savage, in 30-06.  :chuckle:
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2021, 07:54:18 PM »
Put up a poll.  Again though, .300 win or PRC. Havenít heard anyone say why not!
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2021, 08:04:55 PM »
308 has the short action and less weight.

But if you aren't invested in 308 I think 7-08 is the way to go.

3006 is just plain fun at the range though.

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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2021, 08:26:33 PM »

You could play that game with quite a few cartridges.

Why choose a 308 when you could have a 30-06?
Why choose a 30-06 when you could get a 300 Win Mag?
Why choose a 300 Win Mag when you could get a 300 PRC?
And best yet, why choose any of those when you could get a 280AI?  :tup:

Well, it wasn't meant as "playing a game", as you put it.  It was meant as a serious question, comparing two very similar calibers.  If you want to "play a game" then just add "Wby" to the end of any caliber you care to discuss, and most likely .280AI won't even be in the discussion.

I guess I should have used the sarcasm font in parts of my post  :rolleyes:

But I gave you a serious answer as well, which also eluded you.

It didn't elude me......I just don't think that adding a boutique cartridge to the discussion adds much.

You sure about that?

I've always been curious why someone would cho(o)se .308 Winchester over the .30-'06

If they have no intent of shooting past 300 yards, or even to it.

That is in reference to the 308, which was already under discussion by you and nothing I added. So serious answer given. Why not, if you never shoot 300 or 200 yards, go with a 308?

Precisely.

So why the curiosity of choosing the 308 over an -06? In short range applications it makes perfect sense.

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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2021, 08:44:47 PM »
Said it before, all those Army sniper confirmed Kís canít be wrong. Love my .308.
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2021, 08:47:37 PM »
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06.  A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.
Brass and reloading components was cheaper pre covid19.
Case capacity is smaller than the 06 .
Ammo on the shelf today I assume is about the same,nothing.
Recoil with 308 is a bit lighter ,150 grain is where the 308 shines.

The rifle I bought ended up turning into my son's rifle.
He went from 243 to 308 pretty easy with keeping accuracy.
I don't own an 06 now ,but did have one before I started reloading .
Long range there is better calibers than a 308 like the 06.
But for shots under 200 yards 308 does pack a punch.

Really not much difference between the two ,just a few hundred FPS . My son's loads with a 150 grain come in on the cronograph at 2850.
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2021, 09:02:17 PM »
I don't want to derail an excellent discussion, and turn it into an argument, but I've always been curious why someone would chose .308 Winchester over the .30-'06.  A comparison of both might be a positive contribution here.
Brass and reloading components was cheaper pre covid19.
Case capacity is smaller than the 06 .
Ammo on the shelf today I assume is about the same,nothing.
Recoil with 308 is a bit lighter ,150 grain is where the 308 shines.

The rifle I bought ended up turning into my son's rifle.
He went from 243 to 308 pretty easy with keeping accuracy.
I don't own an 06 now ,but did have one before I started reloading .
Long range there is better calibers than a 308 like the 06.
But for shots under 200 yards 308 does pack a punch.

Really not much difference between the two ,just a few hundred FPS . My son's loads with a 150 grain come in on the cronograph at 2850.

You make a great case for the .308.  One of the interesting aspects of that caliber is the lighter recoil.  I have known a few hunters who were very recoil-sensitive, and felt-recoil is a very real consideration when choosing a hunting rifle.
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2021, 09:08:21 PM »
I can ring steel all day long @ 300 yards with my Weatherby VG 2 .308 shooting good ammo (https://www.underwoodammo.com/308-winchester-match-grade-165-grain-nosler-accubond-spitzer.html). Havenít had a critter walk away with this round/rifle out to 375 yards. Ya, Iím more of a bow Hunter but canít argue with the effectiveness of the .308 for boomstick seasons(s).

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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2021, 09:57:25 PM »
6.5 Grendel AR 15

If you can find ammo.
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2021, 11:19:32 PM »
Its not there yet but in 5 years I think you will see 300 Prc being mentioned a lot in answers.   215 gr @ 3000 fps,  1000 yd capable, shootable without brake or lightweight with brake.    The main advantage over these others mentioned is it can do targets or game to 1000 yds.

Edit - obviously I didnít read the whole question!
Are you saying 7mmRM is not capable of being used at 1000 yards?
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2021, 04:38:29 AM »
Said it before, all those Army sniper confirmed Kís canít be wrong. Love my .308.

Yep.👍

As I have .300winmag as my forum name.🤣

But my back up is a .308.😉
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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2021, 01:48:03 PM »
6.5 Grendel AR 15

If you can find ammo.
I belive you can resize 7.62x39 cases to grendel specs. I personally think its a great round.

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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2021, 01:55:15 PM »
As a south paw shooter i was going to limit myself to one bolt gun. I had my mind set on a 300 win mag. After a short talk with the guys at Kesslerings they walked me over to the ammo shelf. I had like 30 choices verses 5. 06 has 30rnds of greek surplus for $8  up to the nickle cased trophy bonded bearclay for $30. ( this was a few snows ago) to this day i still have ball ammo and my favored  balistic tip.

I think you can make the case for several different choices is you allow 2 calibers but  im not sure how you can go wrong with the price availability variety of the 06 feed it a 110 pill or as heavy as you dare for moose or  somethi g more dangerious.

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Re: Best All Around Rifle for Versatile Use
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2021, 02:33:43 PM »
Are you saying 7mmRM is not capable of being used at 1000 yards?
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Hard to fault the 7mag with 195 bergers.  On smaller game prob better than 300prc, slight edge to prc on elk but splitting hairs for sure.

 


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