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Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« on: December 06, 2021, 09:56:50 AM »
Hopefully this is okay with the Moderators, Iím not trying to create a bunch of threads regarding spring bear being canceled. However I was wondering what more I could do. I wanted to make it easy for people like me to find out who I can bother over this issue. I took all these contacts from the other thread. Please Feel free to add contacts to the list.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/commission/contact

JT Austin
Senior Policy Advisor, Natural Resources
360-902-0638
jt.austin@gov.wa.gov

Jon Snyder
Senior Policy Advisor, Outdoor Recreation & Economic Development
360-584-3804
jon.snyder@gov.wa.gov

https://www.change.org/p/jay-inslee-bring-back-spring-bear-hunting-for-washington-states-2022-season

Call 360.786.7662 senator Jesse Salomon and ask he not confirm Lorna Smith

https://app.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/

kevin.vandewege@leg.wa.gov.
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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2021, 03:50:50 PM »
Keep up the pressure. Donít let this fall by the way side. Continue to call and email, even just weekly if thatís all you can do. We must not let Lorna Smith get confirmed. If you can share info on your social media do itÖa chance to speak on a podcast? Do it. Continue to get the word out. Iíll update as soon as possible if there is something else we can do.

Iím not letting this issue pass anytime soon.

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2021, 04:00:33 PM »
People need to realize that even if Spring bear means nothing to them, that this is still a major battle.  Next year they might determine that mule deer donít need to be hunted.  I mean following the science, they are in worse shape than black bears areÖ. 

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2021, 04:24:35 PM »
People need to realize that even if Spring bear means nothing to them, that this is still a major battle.  Next year they might determine that mule deer donít need to be hunted.  I mean following the science, they are in worse shape than black bears areÖ.

All you have to do is look at how they want to handle the elk recruitment problem in the blues. Reduce hunting but do nothing about predators. This is the logical nextmovenow that predator numbers are high enough.
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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2021, 04:35:36 PM »
I contacted my senator and rep's.
Does anyone know if the Lorna Smith confirmation is currently scheduled/in process?

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2021, 04:36:11 PM »
People need to realize that even if Spring bear means nothing to them, that this is still a major battle.  Next year they might determine that mule deer donít need to be hunted.  I mean following the science, they are in worse shape than black bears areÖ.

 :yeah:

Cougars with dogs, spring bear, wolves are untouchable, coyote derby, it will certainly continue through the predators at least.  Fall bear is probably next, no reason to be chasing around those sows as they struggle to put on weight to care for their cubs.

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2021, 04:39:44 PM »
People need to realize that even if Spring bear means nothing to them, that this is still a major battle.  Next year they might determine that mule deer donít need to be hunted.  I mean following the science, they are in worse shape than black bears areÖ.

They donít follow the science though. Lots more money in deer tags

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2021, 05:56:30 PM »
I'm not trying to throw cold water on anyone's activism

BUT

There's a ton of people who are fired up and trying to engage on this as individuals. Better energy is to find a conservation org (local or national) that is in this fight and work through them/support their work. They know the system, players and most effective practices to actually fight these battles. Keep in mind that Marie from the inland Northwest Wildlife Council was one of the only people speaking on behalf of hunters in those meetings and is working her channels to build action. Just because you don't see them move our and fast doesn't mean orgs aren't working hard on this- strategically and not just reactively. They'll also keep this fight going longer.

Just food for thought
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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2021, 06:04:18 PM »
Does anyone know if the Lorna Smith confirmation is currently scheduled/in process?
The legislature doesn't come into session until January. We will know a date (if one is scheduled) then.

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2021, 06:11:30 PM »
I'm not trying to throw cold water on anyone's activism

BUT

There's a ton of people who are fired up and trying to engage on this as individuals. Better energy is to find a conservation org (local or national) that is in this fight and work through them/support their work. They know the system, players and most effective practices to actually fight these battles. Keep in mind that Marie from the inland Northwest Wildlife Council was one of the only people speaking on behalf of hunters in those meetings and is working her channels to build action. Just because you don't see them move our and fast doesn't mean orgs aren't working hard on this- strategically and not just reactively. They'll also keep this fight going longer.

Just food for thought

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2021, 06:36:34 PM »
I'm in agreement with the sentiment of doing all you can do.

Contact the Commission, contact the appropriate Senator(s), give financial support to organizations that are in this fight.

Make calls, send emails, donate time and money to pro hunting organizations working to save hunt.

It all matters.

There is a famous quote by Martin Niemoller, that is too long to put in here, (if you are interested the full quote is on Google). Very loosely paraphrased to say:

I didn't speak up when they took other people's rights. Then they came for my rights, and there was no one left to help me save my rights.

Please help save bear hunting.

Or there may be no one left when they come to take your deer hunting / elk hunting / fishing / public land recreation....

I heard someone ask recently if it be our generation that history looks back upon as the generation that lost hunting in America.

I can do more. So I will.

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2021, 07:18:11 PM »
Does anyone know if the Lorna Smith confirmation is currently scheduled/in process?
The legislature doesn't come into session until January. We will know a date (if one is scheduled) then.

Thanks @bigtex

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2021, 08:31:02 PM »
I contacted the commission today and confirmed that the vacant Eastern WA spot has been open since December of 2020.  I then asked who to talk to about the fact that the Governor has violated the RCW regarding appointment to the commission since it specifically states that he SHALL appoint three positions in January of odd years and that if a position becomes vacant during that persons term he SHALL appoint a new person within 60 days.  In either case, he violated the RCW.  I was told "I suggest you reach out to the Governors Boards and Commissions office. They can be reached at 360-902-4111 or by email at GovernorBoardsandCommissions@gov.wa.gov."

If you are contacting people, this is another thing to bring up.  By violating the RCW, the Governor has left Eastern WA without proper representation. 
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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2021, 06:11:13 AM »
I contacted the commission today and confirmed that the vacant Eastern WA spot has been open since December of 2020.  I then asked who to talk to about the fact that the Governor has violated the RCW regarding appointment to the commission since it specifically states that he SHALL appoint three positions in January of odd years and that if a position becomes vacant during that persons term he SHALL appoint a new person within 60 days.  In either case, he violated the RCW.  I was told "I suggest you reach out to the Governors Boards and Commissions office. They can be reached at 360-902-4111 or by email at GovernorBoardsandCommissions@gov.wa.gov."

If you are contacting people, this is another thing to bring up.  By violating the RCW, the Governor has left Eastern WA without proper representation.

thank raydog for the list, and thanks torrent for this addíl phone # and email. i believe this is the email/# by which a complaint about specific commission members can be made. i will be sending complaints about all 4 members that voted no on spring bear via this email. i mailed my petition yesterday as commissioner thorburn suggested. i certainly expect wdfw to rubberstamp a rejection on it, but plan to appeal. the hope is that somewhere we can get more media coverage of this problem and prevent lorna smithís confirmation, and push inslee to appoint eastern waís representative. i also agree that getting (and funding) the pro-hunting organizations to advocate for us on this is important, but in the meantime individual citizens continuing to push and not letting this go may work like dripping water on a rock. i also agree that teaching/recruiting others to hunt is more important now than ever (and when my daughters are old enough they will have the option to hunt if they want), but it is also important to teach them that the right to do so has to be actively defended these days. we unfortunately cannot take hunting rights for granted. this has opened my eyes.

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Re: Contact List Regarding Spring Bear
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2021, 06:37:08 AM »
Do the senators in my district (31) have any input on this confirmation vote??  I don't want to email them if they can't say or do anything about it.
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