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7mm PRC
« on: October 08, 2022, 05:18:54 AM »
All but officially released by Hornady. Sami specs are out.
Whatcha think. Another cartridge to hype and fizzle out or a realistic niche filled?
Seems to be capable of long for caliber bullets at 2900-3000. Plenty of good 7mm's out there, just hard to get manufacturer support unless it's a rem mag or 7-08...

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2022, 07:04:44 AM »
With hornadys marketing team it will do well
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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2022, 09:04:39 AM »
6.5 prc or 6.5 CM ?
7 prc or 28 Nosler ?
300 prc or 300 WM ?
338 WM

Take ur pic.  I expect PRC’s are here to stay and likely 28 Nosler too but 7mm PRC may displace it over next couple years….



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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2022, 02:26:36 PM »
F-Class John on YouTube has been posting a version of 7 PRC and it seems to be a shooter. He’s been necking up 6.5 PRC brass to 7mm.
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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2022, 02:39:18 PM »
If it loads with something other than H-4350 I hope it takes over the market.   :chuckle:

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2022, 10:39:09 PM »
This new 7mm PRC is a damn near twin to the 7mm Blaser mag with the 7 PRC case being just a tiny tick shorter.  It's kind of a prefect fit, even with the 180's, for a medium action.  Should make for a great cartridge in a Tikka.  I haven't read anything official yet but my guess is it'll have a case capacity right around 80-82gr H2O which, depending on who's brass you measure, is about the same as the 7mm WSM, 7mm Rem mag and 7mm Blaser mag.

It sounds like it's going to run 175-180gr factory ammo somewhere right around 3000fps.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2022, 05:53:55 PM »
I think it fills a niche for those that don't reload or have tikka actions. I'm a 7rem mag fan but thinking of trying something new. I have a 7-08 Tikka that I might have rechambered to this. But If I'm building a rifle from the ground up, I'd think that 28 nosler or 7mm stw is a better choice.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2022, 06:06:08 PM »
I was eyeballin the 6.8w

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2022, 06:51:30 PM »
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2022, 04:29:18 AM »
The 28 nosler is awesome, a little too awesome.. Average barrel life estimateed at 1,000 rounds.. yikes! Course when a box of ammo is $80 a thousand rounds might be a ways off. When your experimenting with almost 100grns of bmg powders, your in a different category all together.

The 6.8 western is also awesome. It was awesome the first time they made it 20 years ago. I still have a 270wsm I've been meaning to rebarrel. At least you can still order brass, though the western might put a nail in that coffin.

Hornady hasn't let me down yet with the 6.5prc, even with the great ammo depression, they did their best. Not sure I'll end up with the 7 version, the 6.5 has been an incredible little package with a lot of reloading, ammo and rifle support. But if Hornady and the rest of the industry gives the 7prc the same love I think it could do really well.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2022, 07:59:22 AM »
How does the 7 prc stack up against the 7 saum? Wouldn’t this be a better comparison than the 28 nos?

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2022, 08:50:27 AM »
How does the 7 prc stack up against the 7 saum? Wouldn’t this be a better comparison than the 28 nos?
The SAUM has a fair bit less case capacity then the 7 PRC will have and the 28 Nosler isn't really that comparable because it has quite a bit more case capacity then this new 7 PRC.

The 7 PRC will be very comparable to the 7mm Rem mag and 7 WSM as they all have near the same case capacities.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2022, 10:13:16 AM »
The 28 nosler is awesome, a little too awesome.. Average barrel life estimateed at 1,000 rounds.. yikes! Course when a box of ammo is $80 a thousand rounds might be a ways off. When your experimenting with almost 100grns of bmg powders, your in a different category all together.

The 6.8 western is also awesome. It was awesome the first time they made it 20 years ago. I still have a 270wsm I've been meaning to rebarrel. At least you can still order brass, though the western might put a nail in that coffin.

Hornady hasn't let me down yet with the 6.5prc, even with the great ammo depression, they did their best. Not sure I'll end up with the 7 version, the 6.5 has been an incredible little package with a lot of reloading, ammo and rifle support. But if Hornady and the rest of the industry gives the 7prc the same love I think it could do really well.

I've got the Browning X-Bolt Western Hunter in 6.5 PRC and loving everything about it and the caliber so far. I think all the PRCs have their place and will stick around.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2022, 01:07:20 PM »
I'll be shocked if the 6.8 western is seen much in a few years.  But 7mm PRC seems like a better Elk rifle than the 6.5 PRC ?

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2022, 06:16:43 PM »
I have been kind of wanting a LR wolf rifle, the 6.8w seemed like a good option and maybe for some speed goat fun too

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2022, 08:22:10 AM »
https://hawkinsprecision.com/2022/10/24/reloading-for-7-prc/

The velocities seems pretty fast for only a 24in pipe and a case capacity that's only around 80gr H20 but it appeared to shoot well in this particular build so good on them. 

3000 with 190's from a 24in barrel and case capacity about the same as the WSM or Rem 7 mag is getting in to the big 28 Nosler territory and the big Nos is burning 8-10gr more powder.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2022, 08:44:03 AM »
https://www.hornady.com/7prc#!/

2975 with 180's and a 24in barrel from factory ammo in a case this size is pretty good.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2022, 10:46:30 AM »
https://www.hornady.com/7prc#!/

2975 with 180's and a 24in barrel from factory ammo in a case this size is pretty good.

Good find! They must have officially released that today. I have a LA that might see this case in the future.
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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2022, 12:05:38 PM »
more comparisons


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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2022, 12:32:48 PM »
I haven't seen this much instant hype around a cartridge in a while. Maybe ever. I just looked at Instagram and my feed is FULL of 7 PRC stuff.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2022, 12:42:03 PM »
But will it take the manbun status away from 6.5c?

I hope so, cause I kinda want one  :chuckle:

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2022, 01:46:49 PM »
Seems like it might thread the needle, I was looking at 6.5 PRC and 300 prc.  I wanted slightly more than the 6.5 for elk but not the recoil of the 300.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2022, 02:05:15 PM »
Seems like it might thread the needle, I was looking at 6.5 PRC and 300 prc.  I wanted slightly more than the 6.5 for elk but not the recoil of the 300.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2022, 02:32:26 PM »
Seems like it might thread the needle, I was looking at 6.5 PRC and 300 prc.  I wanted slightly more than the 6.5 for elk but not the recoil of the 300.

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To a large degree, I think that's exactly the intentions of the new 7 PRC. 

When you run the numbers on a 7mm high BC 180gr launching at 3000fps it's pretty impressive and takes a pretty good 200+gr 30 cal to out do it.

Will this do anything different than a 7 Rem mag built/throated the same, not really, but there's no belt to deal with and overall I think the 7PRC is a better case design.


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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2022, 01:14:08 PM »
7mm PRC O.A.L. = 3.34"   
300 wm O.A.L. =   3.34"
Case Head size for both .532

Hmmmmmm New barrel time for the old truck gun, just gotta get the right Reamer to avoid the common PRC Clickers
« Last Edit: October 27, 2022, 01:25:03 PM by Magnum_Willys »

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2022, 01:34:44 PM »
I may or may not have a few boxes of “just incase” 180’s on the way…

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2022, 02:12:22 PM »
Got a bunch of Lapua 300 PRC brass "just in case" now le :bash:aning towards the 7mm PRC....

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2022, 07:03:03 PM »
Maybe its just me but it seems like Hornady is trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. As said before, there is plenty of established 7mm options , 7RM, 7WSM, 7LRM, 7SAUM. All too often I think we get way to caught up in slight differences when comparing cartridge's, in todays times it would seem more important to go with what ammo or components are available vs buying into a new cartridge. JMO
 

Here is a quick read...

https://mailchi.mp/7fb54f6b0d36/ready-to-go-rifles-5268453

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2022, 10:08:08 PM »
I'll take a stab at this.
A lot to unpack in that article from R bros. Other than the 7rm everything else I would consider "custom" today. The 7 PRC will not be custom with Hornady. If it's like the other Hornady backed cartridges it will be off the shelf available even for us reloaders and the rifle companies are apparently already committed. conversely, You know what else is "custom"? A 7rm compatible for heavies with the appropriate twist! And call me weird but I just don't like belted cases.
The other 7mm are awesome but personally I'm thankful for companies producing options like this. A 7mm pushing heavies around 3000fps and chambered correctly in factory rifles is also awesome.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2022, 05:29:46 AM »
I think the "custom" statement was made because of reamer design. A quick search only shows Savage with one on the market. So if you want a 7PRC but not a Savage, I guess it's going to be "custom".

Hey, if someone wants a new toy cool rock on, but there is a whole lot of marketing behind it and it probably will do okay because of that, not because it fills a void in the market.

Dead is dead, 7PRC, 7RM, 7SAUM.... it really doesn't matter, that's all I'm saying.

I see bullet selection and making a good shot far more important than which comparable 7mm cartridge to select.

YMMV and that's okay!

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2022, 07:36:33 AM »
I’ve been thinking about building a custom gun off of my rem 700 .300 RUM… this one is sounding pretty good

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2022, 01:45:43 PM »
I think the "custom" statement was made because of reamer design. A quick search only shows Savage with one on the market. So if you want a 7PRC but not a Savage, I guess it's going to be "custom".

Hey, if someone wants a new toy cool rock on, but there is a whole lot of marketing behind it and it probably will do okay because of that, not because it fills a void in the market.

Dead is dead, 7PRC, 7RM, 7SAUM.... it really doesn't matter, that's all I'm saying.

I see bullet selection and making a good shot far more important than which comparable 7mm cartridge to select.

YMMV and that's okay!

The list below is a cut and paste from this link to outdoor life but it's a good read with a lot of information.  https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/7mm-prc-tested-and-reviewed/

Available Rifles in the 7mm PRC
A cartridge is only as good as the number of firearms makers that agree to chamber it. And by this measure the 7 PRC is off to a good start. Although I’m sure there are plenty of smaller custom rifle makers champing at the bit to build rifles in the this round, too, the official list of companies planning to make rifles in this round includes the following:

Allterra Arms
Best of the West
Christensen Arms
Fierce Firearms
Gunwerks
Hill Country Rifles
H-S Precision
Horizon Firearms
J.P. Sauer & Sohn
McWhorter Custom Rifles
Proof Research
Remington
Ruger (coming later 2023)
Savage
Seekins Precision
Short Action Customs
Springfield Armory (coming 2023)
TS Customs
West Texas Ordnance

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2022, 02:31:22 PM »
Dang, no lack of articles or videos on this thing. Here's a good one from Mr. 7 LRM himself..


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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2022, 04:48:21 PM »
Ya this sure is getting the marketing and it sure has me thinking, was 90% settled on building a 280 AI and have been thinking since June (the 10%) wait till a bit more information is out, now I’m thinking the build might just have to be this

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2022, 01:22:18 PM »
Hmmmmmm New barrel time for the old truck gun, just gotta get the right Reamer to avoid the common PRC Clickers

I have a LA Rem 700 all done up ready to go that's been sitting on the shelf for a couple years now waiting to get turned into something and I've got a couple Bartlein 8.5tw .284 barrels inbound.  I've been wanting to build my daughter something that'll kind of be a good do all rifle that had pretty decent legs to it, had manageable recoil, and if I wasn't around, preferably that'll be a longggg time from now  ;) she'd be able to get good factory ammo for it.  Both barrels are Bartlein's 3B profile so they won't be real big but still have enough muzzle dia. to thread 5/8x24 to run a can on it and I'll have it finished at 22.  Even with a 22 I'm guessing it'll be in the 2900-2950 range with 180's but only time will tell.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2022, 02:58:43 PM »
Maybe by then factory ammo will be available!  Just hoping for brass somewhere.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2022, 09:50:07 AM »
Just received this in the mail. I believe they are telling me I need a .284 cartridge in my safe  :chuckle:
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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2022, 10:15:02 AM »
Just received this in the mail. I believe they are telling me I need a .284 cartridge in my safe  :chuckle:

Clearly they are speaking directly to you.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2022, 10:17:21 AM »
Just received this in the mail. I believe they are telling me I need a .284 cartridge in my safe  :chuckle:

Clearly they are speaking directly to you.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2022, 10:17:41 AM »
Now if only you could buy that ammo!

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2022, 02:29:02 PM »
Now if only you could buy that ammo!

I got my two new 5R 3B barrels, one will finish at 22 the other 26,  from Bartlein Tuesday and I'm already second guessing my idea of going 7 PRC.  I already have lots of new 7 Blaser mag brass, already have the dies, Shawn already has a 7 Blaser mag reamer from the first one he built for me and I pretty much know what to expect with another 7 Blaser build sooo other than factory ammo, which may or may not be all that available, I'm starting to think maybe I'll just have Shawn build me another 7 Blaser for my daughter but in a shorter 22in barrel configuration.  Since I already have everything I'll need with a 7 Blaser, for me, it may be the smarter choice.  :dunno:

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2022, 02:32:41 PM »
Man it's too bad there aren't already some .284 clamberings that can push a 180 at 2900fps + :peep:



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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2022, 02:48:50 PM »
Man it's too bad there aren't already some .284 clamberings that can push a 180 at 2900fps + :peep:



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True, but are any of them doing it with factory ammo? 

For me, the only reason the 7 PRC interested me was since this would be a build for my daughter and I don't foresee her ever doing any reloading, years from now, the 7 PRC could be the better choice but I'm already starting to second guess that plan and now I'm leaning toward a 22in 7 Blaser build instead of a 7 PRC.

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Re: 7mm PRC
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2022, 05:31:12 PM »
I will definitely have one in the safe. It's a well put together 7mm from top to bottom and Hornady has shown a habit of keeping stuff on the shelves for their creations, and so has the rest of the industry.

 


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