Leupold RDS 1x muzzleloader scope 1 moa dot

[crabcreekhunter]

Was on the fence about picking up a 1x scope for the muzzy but happened to get an east side quality muzzy elk tag.  I ordered the Leupold RDS muzzle loader scope with the CDS dial today and a rail with rings to drop it as low as possible to the bore.  Anybody run some rounds underneath one yet?  Not many reviews out there.

[duckmen1]

Was on the fence about picking up a 1x scope for the muzzy but happened to get an east side quality muzzy elk tag.  I ordered the Leupold RDS muzzle loader scope with the CDS dial today and a rail with rings to drop it as low as possible to the bore.  Anybody run some rounds underneath one yet?  Not many reviews out there.

I have shot to 100 yards with mine so far. With a few shots further. So far I love it. Seem more consistant with less flyers on groups. Love everything about it. I have not played with cds portion yet for distance adjustments. And I can say I still hold to my opinion on my max range will stay very close to the same with or without the 1x vs open sites. I feel cleaner shooting it but to me it is still 1x and I won't be stretching shot distances compared to my peep sight. I was very comfortable to 135 to 150ish yards before. Still feel like that will be my max.

[blackymaster20]

I've ran 8 shots through my accura and have been impressed. Got about a 3 inch group at 100 yards. Still have some more rounds to send downrange though. 

[BULLBLASTER]

While not a leupold rds, i bought a trijicon rmr for my muzzle loader. Put it on my 22 for the time being for repetition and practice. In the 3-400 rounds since i bought it i completely disagree with the idea that it wont increase my effective range. It has to imo. The range i go to has an 8 inch chicken at 220 yards and i can hit that at will with my 22.
Now i completely understand that it is a 22 and not a muzzle loader, but the aiming mechanics are the same. A big benefit is the field of view. You can accurately hold over without obscuring the target whatsoever. That is going to he huge.
My next step is to put a 10x on my muzzle loader and learn its ballistics out to 300 yards, then switch back to the dot. I am confident that i can get consistence yo 200+ yards and 300 may not be put of the question depending on just how much holdover it would involve. The elevation dial on the rds would only help if it is consistent. 

[Caseknife]

I have both the RDS and a Sig Romeo5 on AR's and decided on the Romeo for the muzzy.  Before shooting it though decided to get the Romeo4 because it had a drop reticle and that is on it now.  Agree that it will allow for hold over without blocking the target.

[crabcreekhunter]

Thanks for the reply’s everyone, sounds like it is a good option for what we have available to us.  I currently have western precision peep and globe with the inserts (REM 700 uml). Definitely an accurate setup but struggle in low light, dark environments.  I think the red dot will be be an advantage with those situations.  Shooting off a steady rest, pack or bipod, was confident out to 250 or so (3” groups).  Not really trying to increase range, but able to make that shot in darker situations would be a benefit.

[HntnFsh]

Anybody have a picture of a RDS on a Knight bighorn? Would like to see what it looks like mounted up. Curious if it makes it harder to load a cap. I put a scope on mine several years ago to do some load development and it definitely made it harder to cap but not terrible.

[SkookumHntr]

Was on the fence about picking up a 1x scope for the muzzy but happened to get an east side quality muzzy elk tag.  I ordered the Leupold RDS muzzle loader scope with the CDS dial today and a rail with rings to drop it as low as possible to the bore.  Anybody run some rounds underneath one yet?  Not many reviews out there.

-so you got your scope without the mount and got seperate rings? Thats what im thinking about doing.

[crabcreekhunter]

Was on the fence about picking up a 1x scope for the muzzy but happened to get an east side quality muzzy elk tag.  I ordered the Leupold RDS muzzle loader scope with the CDS dial today and a rail with rings to drop it as low as possible to the bore.  Anybody run some rounds underneath one yet?  Not many reviews out there.

-so you got your scope without the mount and got seperate rings? Thats what im thinking about doing.

Yes the supplied mount was ridiculously high, I went with Talley mediums but probably switch them out for lows.  The supplied mount was probably an 1” higher.

[dub870]

Looks good!

[SkookumHntr]

I ordered the murphy precision rail and the leupold prw2 34mm medium rings. I want the scope as close to the bore also but they only made a medium in the 34mm.

[crabcreekhunter]

Swung up to the range after work today and so far pleased with the optic.  Only shot at 100 so never dialed anything yet since I’m planning to jump to  170/180 grains if it’ll shoot well.  Definitely prefer it over a prep, much more forgiving.  Shots 4,5,6 under the new scope.

[JWBINX]

Hey Crabcreek,
How long have you had that Leupold base?
I looked on their website and cannot find it.
That is definitely a nice package!

[crabcreekhunter]

Hey Crabcreek,
How long have you had that Leupold base?
I looked on their website and cannot find it.
That is definitely a nice package!

A little over a week, picked it up at Sportsman’s.  I think I still have the packaging, I’ll see if I can pull a part number when I get home.

[JWBINX]

 

[crabcreekhunter]

This is that rail, a decent quality aluminum one.

[JWBINX]

Thanks,
I thought at first you had a Knight, but after
looking a little closer I believe yours is a Remington 700 ML.

[crabcreekhunter]

Yes it is the rem 700 uml

[actionshooter]

Planning on trying one of these out... I have a Leupold 3x9 mounted right now for load development on my Optima 2. Will switch over to the RDS later.

 Has anyone had any experience on the ring height on the Optima? 

[crabcreekhunter]

Idk if anyone cares, but figured I’d update.  Jumped from 150 grains of triple 7 pellets to a 180 grains.  Similar group size but significant flattening on trajectory.  Will be stretching it out further in the next couple of weeks.  About a 4” difference from the 150 grain load at 100 yards.

[Dan-o]

Nice group.     

[dub870]

I have an optima and with the RDS and low mounts it looked perfect. I did not shoot it as I returned the scope. It came used from Sportsmans Warehouse.

[actionshooter]

I have an optima and with the RDS and low mounts it looked perfect. I did not shoot it as I returned the scope. It came used from Sportsmans Warehouse.

Sweet, Thank you...

 Returned the RDS?,    Didn't like it?

[elksnout]

Idk if anyone cares, but figured I’d update.  Jumped from 150 grains of triple 7 pellets to a 180 grains.  Similar group size but significant flattening on trajectory.  Will be stretching it out further in the next couple of weeks.  About a 4” difference from the 150 grain load at 100 yards.

 Curious. Not scope nor post related perhaps but is there a danger of increasing grain of powder? Is there a maximum point until there’s too much psi for the breech? I have zero idea which is why I ask.


elksnout

[dub870]

I returned it as it was open box or demo model. It looked used. And they were sold out at that point so could not replace it.

[Dan-o]

Idk if anyone cares, but figured I’d update.  Jumped from 150 grains of triple 7 pellets to a 180 grains.  Similar group size but significant flattening on trajectory.  Will be stretching it out further in the next couple of weeks.  About a 4” difference from the 150 grain load at 100 yards.

 Curious. Not scope nor post related perhaps but is there a danger of increasing grain of powder? Is there a maximum point until there’s too much psi for the breech? I have zero idea which is why I ask.


elksnout

Every muzzleloader I've bought has a max powder charge listed in the owner's manual.  They're not all the same.

You could probably google up max powder charge for most muzzleloaders.

If you search Reminton 700 UML maximum powder charge, you'll see it's 200 grains.

FYI, that's a bigger powder charge than most muzzleloaders I've seen.   I haven't really kept up, but a lot of the muzzy's 10+ years ago had max charge of 120 or 150 grains.

[crabcreekhunter]

Yes there is absolutely a danger in increasing powder charge weights. Especially with different powders having different burn rates as well. Each rifle has its manufacturers spec on what it is rated for and that should be followed.  I’m really only familiar with the REM 700 uml which is rated for 200 grains of 777 pellets.  If I was using blackhorn 209 powder I wouldn’t be using 180 grains for example. 

[huntnphool]

 I ordered a titanium rail from Murphy Precision and picked up the RDS for my Bighorn that I picked up on the cheap from Knight during their blowout sale. The rail wasn’t cheap but I’m very happy with the quality, it fits perfectly and is cosmetically appealing as well.

 The RDS is also very nice, but I don’t like the mount that came with it so I just ordered rings. I’ll post up a pic when I get it set up.

[HntnFsh]

Looking Forward to pics!

[SkookumHntr]

I got the same set up, you will like that rail!

[time2hunt]

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[Gobble Doc]

Was on the fence about picking up a 1x scope for the muzzy but happened to get an east side quality muzzy elk tag.  I ordered the Leupold RDS muzzle loader scope with the CDS dial today and a rail with rings to drop it as low as possible to the bore.  Anybody run some rounds underneath one yet?  Not many reviews out there.

Thank you for posting this. Is the design of this scope such that you can adjust the "focus" of the recital (red dot) by turning the front end of the scope? I've been waiting for a traditional 1x scope because I need a way to compensate for my bad vision up close ("adjusting the focus of the scope"). Currently I wear 2 different power contact lenses when I hunt so that I can better see the sights on my muzzy and would really like a better option.  Thanks.   

[crabcreekhunter]

Was on the fence about picking up a 1x scope for the muzzy but happened to get an east side quality muzzy elk tag.  I ordered the Leupold RDS muzzle loader scope with the CDS dial today and a rail with rings to drop it as low as possible to the bore.  Anybody run some rounds underneath one yet?  Not many reviews out there.

Thank you for posting this. Is the design of this scope such that you can adjust the "focus" of the recital (red dot) by turning the front end of the scope? I've been waiting for a traditional 1x scope because I need a way to compensate for my bad vision up close ("adjusting the focus of the scope"). Currently I wear 2 different power contact lenses when I hunt so that I can better see the sights on my muzzy and would really like a better option.  Thanks.

No unfortunately that is not the design, however the red dot may work for you.  I’m not to sure on that, but my dad cannot focus on the peep/front sight/animal with his vision but can use this.  I’d recommend going to your nearest optics dealer and looking through a couple.  The Leupold/sig Romeo’s/ or trijicon.  Imagine one of them will work for you.  The Leupold just has the elevation turret and a small 1 moa dot for more precise aiming is why it is popular right now.

[Gobble Doc]

Thanks CCH. I will probably wait for getting a regular optical scope. Good luck with your season. 

[huntnphool]

The Seekins low rings sit the RDS perfect for me.

[Hound Hunter]

The Seekins low rings sit the RDS perfect for me.

What MOA did you go with on your base?

[yogi]

Put one on my Remington muzzle loader and truley improved my accuracy

[huntnphool]

The Seekins low rings sit the RDS perfect for me.

What MOA did you go with on your base?

 0 MOA