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Offline lhrbull

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inheriting bonus points
« on: June 16, 2024, 07:00:02 AM »
Since we buy them from the state why shouldn't we be able to give them to a direct descendant so we don't die or get to use them.

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2024, 07:32:11 AM »
Itís been argued many times. It seems that they claim points have no value and what theyíre selling you is the chance that year to draw a tag. If you could we would probably have predatory points buyers just like the sleazebag real estate agent thatís been calling and stopping by my dadís place trying to see if heís hard up for money yet and he can get his land. Maybe points could only be given to a spouse or direct descendant to avoid this

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2024, 08:03:58 AM »
Points schemes were a bad idea. Anything that allows for sale or transfer of points is a bad idea on steroids.

Your points are 'used' each year you apply.  They are not personal property and they do not entitle you to anything...they gave you extra chances to draw, so in effect you got your use out of them. 

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2024, 08:28:22 AM »
Points schemes were a bad idea. Anything that allows for sale or transfer of points is a bad idea on steroids.

Your points are 'used' each year you apply.  They are not personal property and they do not entitle you to anything...they gave you extra chances to draw, so in effect you got your use out of them.
Thatís a good way to put it  :yeah:

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2024, 08:19:44 AM »
They must have value or you wouldn't accumulate them for future advantage in the draw so why couldn't you pass them on to a direct descendent

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2024, 08:36:19 AM »
Slippery slope for sure. I get the arguement but its a really bad idea, almost as bad as the point system itself. The draw is a lottery, plain and simple. Passing your points along to someone else will never happen
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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2024, 08:37:55 AM »
They must have value or you wouldn't accumulate them for future advantage in the draw so why couldn't you pass them on to a direct descendent
The short answer: its not legal/permissible to transfer points.  That's why you can't pass them to a descendent (or anyone else). 
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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2024, 08:40:58 AM »
This would make the system even more broken. The point system is trash.

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2024, 08:43:58 AM »
They must have value or you wouldn't accumulate them for future advantage in the draw so why couldn't you pass them on to a direct descendent

I think of them as a personalized coupon (do they still have them?). Only you can use them in the draw for a specific item/hunt, otherwise the cash value is 1/100th of 1 cent.

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2024, 08:44:59 AM »
And I am against the idea for a host of reasons.

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2024, 08:53:34 AM »
They must have value or you wouldn't accumulate them for future advantage in the draw so why couldn't you pass them on to a direct descendent

I think of them as a personalized coupon (do they still have them?). Only you can use them in the draw for a specific item/hunt, otherwise the cash value is 1/100th of 1 cent.

So I should be able to collect 100 pts and be able to trade them in for the penny.

I agree it is a bad idea to make them inheritable/transferable. Sucks to just let them go but it is what it is. Besides I don't want hear someone complaining they have 60 points and someone with 3 points got drawn. Be nice if people just forgot about the points and realize it is just a random draw and either you are lucky that year or you are not.

Just my opinion.

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2024, 08:58:34 AM »
If points could be inherited there are so many people currently with 20+ points for tough to draw species that it could easily get to where there is no real chance for a person to draw in their lifetime unless they had inherited points from previous generations of hunters! And future hunters who inherited points from multiple sources would have by far the best odds. If that was the case then why would future generations of hunters even apply if there were other people with so many inherited points? The system would likely totally implode at that point!
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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2024, 09:00:30 AM »
If you ask me they should have a pool of tags that require 20 point's or more to put in to. Why shouldn't the guys who have waited and put in for that long get a special drawing?

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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2024, 09:03:16 AM »
If you ask me they should have a pool of tags that require 20 point's or more to put in to. Why shouldn't the guys who have waited and put in for that long get a special drawing?

Those are preference not bonus points
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Re: inheriting bonus points
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2024, 09:07:48 AM »
If you ask me they should have a pool of tags that require 20 point's or more to put in to. Why shouldn't the guys who have waited and put in for that long get a special drawing?

If point systems were any good there wouldn't be all sorts of people wanting to try various scenarios, the best thing would be if points systems were scrapped, but that isn't going to happen either because too many people think they will probably draw soon because of all their points they have accumulated.

The reality is there are loads of hunters sitting on 20+ points!
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