Commissioner of Public Lands 2024

[bigtex]

Besides the Trump thing, anything else going against JHB?

She voted to give amnesty to illegal alien farm workers.
She wouldn’t endorse Joe Kent after he beat her in the primary election.
Not only did she vote to impeach Trump without any hearings and after he was already out of office, she wrote in Paul Ryan for president in the 2016 election because Trump was just to extreme for her. She would allow Hillary to be president before she would vote for Trump.
To name a few. You asked…

Those are definite negatives for me, I was glad to see her beat out by Kent.

And how did that work out in the end? Kent beat her in the primary and Kent lost to a democrat in the general, which gave the dems a seat that had been R for years. That's a moderate/purplish district and getting bluer by the day with increased urbanization around the Vancouver area.

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[Tbar]

I really hope it's not upthegeove and VanDeWege.  With all the divisions those are probably the ones headed for the Nov ballot. 

[fireweed]

As our SW Wa rep Jamie HB did a good job advocating for better public access to the USFS lands.  She directly took some of my arguments for better public access as Mount St. Helens and sent it in a letter to the USFS, which at least made them take notice and try to justify their restrictions.  For me this was real proof she listened to what I had to say.  She also worked to fix USFS washed out roads. A moderate has the best chance to be our only R statewide elected official. 

[Lucky1]

Besides the Trump thing, anything else going against JHB?

She voted to give amnesty to illegal alien farm workers.
She wouldn’t endorse Joe Kent after he beat her in the primary election.
Not only did she vote to impeach Trump without any hearings and after he was already out of office, she wrote in Paul Ryan for president in the 2016 election because Trump was just to extreme for her. She would allow Hillary to be president before she would vote for Trump.
To name a few. You asked…

Those are definite negatives for me, I was glad to see her beat out by Kent.

And how did that work out in the end? Kent beat her in the primary and Kent lost to a democrat in the general, which gave the dems a seat that had been R for years. That's a moderate/purplish district and getting bluer by the day with increased urbanization around the Vancouver area.

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Maybe if JHB had been a team player and endorsed Kent, he may have won.
She stabbed the republicans in the back. She is more concerned about her feelings than she is about getting and or keeping a Republican majority.
You are advocating that conservatives get behind the republican candidates that have the best chance to win so that republicans can win political offices. Here you have a “moderate” republican who doesn’t care. Why should I vote for her. She is a traitor.

[Lucky1]

Besides the Trump thing, anything else going against JHB?

She voted to give amnesty to illegal alien farm workers.
She wouldn’t endorse Joe Kent after he beat her in the primary election.
Not only did she vote to impeach Trump without any hearings and after he was already out of office, she wrote in Paul Ryan for president in the 2016 election because Trump was just to extreme for her. She would allow Hillary to be president before she would vote for Trump.
To name a few. You asked…

And yet Kent has endorsed her for Commissioner of Public Lands.

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I think he is making a effort to unify tha party. (At the expense of Sue Kuehl Pederson) He also might think that JHB has a better chance of winning the position. He could be right.
Some people are done voting for “moderates” and losing anyway. Might as well vote for the candidate you like best. That is what primary elections are for.

[Lucky1]

Besides the Trump thing, anything else going against JHB?

She voted to give amnesty to illegal alien farm workers.
She wouldn’t endorse Joe Kent after he beat her in the primary election.
Not only did she vote to impeach Trump without any hearings and after he was already out of office, she wrote in Paul Ryan for president in the 2016 election because Trump was just to extreme for her. She would allow Hillary to be president before she would vote for Trump.
To name a few. You asked…

Anything negative about her specifically where WA public lands are concerned? She’s endorsed by the HHC, seems very pro timber industry. She’s got a plan for sea lions to protect salmon. We’re always bitching about forest management to prevent wildfire. She’s all over that.

Im not sure not endorsing a candidate you don’t agree with is a big problem for me. If I don’t agree with their policies and plans, I’m not sure I’d endorse them either. I mean it’s kind of BS at that point to fake your approval for someone just because you’re expected to stay in party lines.

I appreciate and understand the negatives around Trump, but that’s not a big deal for me. I’m not a huge fan of Trump.

I think party lines are extremely important. The insane laws that are coming out of Olympia are due to party line voting. Do you like the high capacity magazine ban law? Do you like the unconstitutional gunlaws about home built firearms and “assault weapons”?  Do you like that kids in grade school are required to be taught about the history of transgenders? Do you think it is a good idea to phase out the use of natural gas? Party is important!
JHB did get some changes made that allow the killing of some sea lions. Her efforts were useless. The sea lions are not being controlled. It is obvious, ask anyone who fishes salmon on the Columbia River and tributaries.
JHB is a big government gal. She thinks that government is here to take care of you and control you and provide for all your needs. I have had all of her that I can stomach.

[Special T]

JHB helped get some piniped harvest on the Columbia and Will Smith rivers.

https://www.thereflector.com/stories/herrera-beutler-visits-bonneville-dam-to-see-effects-of-salmon-legislation,277857

[280ackley]

As a reminder, we do not want Dave Upthegrove as lands commissioner.  I'll take JHB or one of the two D's i mentioned earlier before Upthegrove.

[bearpaw]

Besides the Trump thing, anything else going against JHB?

She voted to give amnesty to illegal alien farm workers.
She wouldn’t endorse Joe Kent after he beat her in the primary election.
Not only did she vote to impeach Trump without any hearings and after he was already out of office, she wrote in Paul Ryan for president in the 2016 election because Trump was just to extreme for her. She would allow Hillary to be president before she would vote for Trump.
To name a few. You asked…

Those are definite negatives for me, I was glad to see her beat out by Kent.

And how did that work out in the end? Kent beat her in the primary and Kent lost to a democrat in the general, which gave the dems a seat that had been R for years. That's a moderate/purplish district and getting bluer by the day with increased urbanization around the Vancouver area.

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I get what you are saying, however there has been so much of that going on its one reason politics are where they are, liberal voters stick with liberal candidates, conservative voters too often go along with a RINO candidate who then votes with D's to enact liberal laws. Buetler has made her own bed with her own actions! So I also get why some voters are not going to vote for her in the primary! 

[snarkybull]

I appreciate the discussion on the qualifications for land commissioner, but I kinda thought this was a politics free zone.  But hey, I can go with it too.  I respect the heck out of JHB for putting her country and what she thought was right above party and job security.  Everybody should do that more.  I voted for her in the 22 primary again versus a guy who oozes dishonesty that was readily picked up by local independents.

I do not know how that equates to being qualified as a public lands commissioner, though, so was hoping for specific input on that.

[Boss .300 winmag]

Mods can you join these two threads.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,284440.0.html

Without saying to much, do you know if Pederson's views would harm hunting, trapping, or firearms issues?

Here’s her response, the only thing taken out is my name.

I’ve sent a pm to bearpaw with the full text with my name in it.


Hi ( My name), As you know, I grew up with my dad and yours (and (my last name) in general)  hunting regularly. I am for hunting accessibility. If I win the position of Commissioner of Public Lands, I'll oversee the Dept of Natural Resources. Unfortunately, it is the WA Dept of Fish & Wildlife that regulates hunting licenses and quotas. As an independently elected official, I will use persuasion to influence their board.


The only thing blacked out is my name, and the post above is my address.

[bearpaw]

Thanks Boss, good to know Pederson has a hunting heritage! 

[idahohuntr]

What are the odds the current results hold and this race is between JHB and SKP?

[bearpaw]

  hopefully

[bigtex]

What are the odds the current results hold and this race is between JHB and SKP?

I'm guessing Upthegrove will make up the balance in the next couple days and pass SKP. Right now their spread is only 4k votes.

Upthegrove is the absolute worst person for this position.

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