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potlatch help
« on: November 18, 2024, 07:23:57 AM »
does anyone know of a potlatch "person in charge" or someone in potlatch that has authority to make a decision or give reliable information. for two years now, we have had interaction with a game warden in Idaho. his story always is different on what road we can or cannot drive on, and it seems to be whichever mood he is in that day. He has written loggers, hunters, mine claims, etc. all tickets for going past a gate, over 50", on a maintained rd but apparently its not a drivable rd, etc. However, when we talk to forest service, and fish and game, nobody has any clue and the maps they use are so out of date, they do not show accurate information, including the map on potlach website. Just find it frustrating that we are trying to do the right thing and fell like we have a target on our back for this particular warden. The wardens response is hat "you need onyx, and all these overlays", but i dont see how Onyx is the end all be all for the legal information.

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2024, 07:36:23 AM »
does anyone know of a potlatch "person in charge" or someone in potlatch that has authority to make a decision or give reliable information. for two years now, we have had interaction with a game warden in Idaho. his story always is different on what road we can or cannot drive on, and it seems to be whichever mood he is in that day. He has written loggers, hunters, mine claims, etc. all tickets for going past a gate, over 50", on a maintained rd but apparently its not a drivable rd, etc. However, when we talk to forest service, and fish and game, nobody has any clue and the maps they use are so out of date, they do not show accurate information, including the map on potlach website. Just find it frustrating that we are trying to do the right thing and fell like we have a target on our back for this particular warden. The wardens response is hat "you need onyx, and all these overlays", but i dont see how Onyx is the end all be all for the legal information.

  Sounds like your huntin his spot just stay out.. 😂

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2024, 07:47:21 AM »
does anyone know of a potlatch "person in charge" or someone in potlatch that has authority to make a decision or give reliable information. for two years now, we have had interaction with a game warden in Idaho. his story always is different on what road we can or cannot drive on, and it seems to be whichever mood he is in that day. He has written loggers, hunters, mine claims, etc. all tickets for going past a gate, over 50", on a maintained rd but apparently its not a drivable rd, etc. However, when we talk to forest service, and fish and game, nobody has any clue and the maps they use are so out of date, they do not show accurate information, including the map on potlach website. Just find it frustrating that we are trying to do the right thing and fell like we have a target on our back for this particular warden. The wardens response is hat "you need onyx, and all these overlays", but i dont see how Onyx is the end all be all for the legal information.

  Sounds like your huntin his spot just stay out.. 😂

yes i agree, that's exactly what it seems like. he has only been there for 2 years now, and caused lots of issues. when the lady at the forest service and post office to get maps roll their eyes and make comments about him, it clearly is not just us having an issue, and when he is interfering with people performing their job, its an issue. Talking to the head of a logging operation and he was furious about the warden locking the gates. the logger only had so many keys to the gate, and staggered his employees, some started at 3am, some at 5, some at 6, not all of them had keys. But ole mr green jeans had such a desire to be up there patrolling and keep locking gates and locking out the loggers, also on a side note. He stated that they were being paid by potlatch $1/acre to patrol potlatch as well. So isn't there some sort of double dipping or illegal behavior occurring if I can prove that's true. He is being paid tax dollars from all of us to be a game warden and then they are being paid by potlatch as well. Either work for potlatch, or work as a game warden?

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2024, 07:53:24 AM »
Why not just call his superior and ask them?   Depending on the response, file a formal complaint.  If he has made this reputation for himself, you won’t be the first one to call his superior.   That’s where I would start. 

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2024, 08:02:30 AM »
does anyone know of a potlatch "person in charge" or someone in potlatch that has authority to make a decision or give reliable information. for two years now, we have had interaction with a game warden in Idaho. his story always is different on what road we can or cannot drive on, and it seems to be whichever mood he is in that day. He has written loggers, hunters, mine claims, etc. all tickets for going past a gate, over 50", on a maintained rd but apparently its not a drivable rd, etc. However, when we talk to forest service, and fish and game, nobody has any clue and the maps they use are so out of date, they do not show accurate information, including the map on potlach website. Just find it frustrating that we are trying to do the right thing and fell like we have a target on our back for this particular warden. The wardens response is hat "you need onyx, and all these overlays", but i dont see how Onyx is the end all be all for the legal information.

  Sounds like your huntin his spot just stay out.. 😂

yes i agree, that's exactly what it seems like. he has only been there for 2 years now, and caused lots of issues. when the lady at the forest service and post office to get maps roll their eyes and make comments about him, it clearly is not just us having an issue, and when he is interfering with people performing their job, its an issue. Talking to the head of a logging operation and he was furious about the warden locking the gates. the logger only had so many keys to the gate, and staggered his employees, some started at 3am, some at 5, some at 6, not all of them had keys. But ole mr green jeans had such a desire to be up there patrolling and keep locking gates and locking out the loggers, also on a side note. He stated that they were being paid by potlatch $1/acre to patrol potlatch as well. So isn't there some sort of double dipping or illegal behavior occurring if I can prove that's true. He is being paid tax dollars from all of us to be a game warden and then they are being paid by potlatch as well. Either work for potlatch, or work as a game warden?
As a game warden you are his customer what happens at a retail store when you treat your customers like garbage…

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2024, 08:27:39 AM »
the layer in ONX is called large tract program, that will show you which roads are open or not open and to which sort of vehicle.

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2024, 02:17:23 PM »
Curious what county were you in? I’d call the local PotlatchDeltic office and ask for a list or map of roads that are open. They’ve revised the recreation and travel management plan. Lots of the gated roads are indeed closed to all motorized vehicles and there isn’t enough enforcement to cover everything.

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2024, 03:31:07 PM »
the layer in ONX is called large tract program, that will show you which roads are open or not open and to which sort of vehicle.

 :yeah:

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2024, 05:48:43 PM »
Curious what county were you in? I’d call the local PotlatchDeltic office and ask for a list or map of roads that are open. They’ve revised the recreation and travel management plan. Lots of the gated roads are indeed closed to all motorized vehicles and there isn’t enough enforcement to cover everything.

100% spot on, I’d be making two calls. I’d talk to the Potlatch office (if in St. Maries area I’d just text one of my buddies who’s higher up) and then I’d be calling the regional IDFW office. I work for the CDA office in the summer and they could definitely help you if it’s in their region.
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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2024, 06:41:17 PM »
the layer in ONX is called large tract program, that will show you which roads are open or not open and to which sort of vehicle.

 :yeah:
How do you access that layer in OnX? I just looked and couldn’t find it.


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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2024, 08:13:36 PM »
I called potlatch and the lady had no clue what to say. Unit 6 off the joe out of st maries. She asked me to screen shot the map issue and send them an emai and they would send tomthat property manager. So we will see what they say

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2024, 08:31:07 PM »


Never heard of that one either, i just looked and it shows it under idaho layers but not washington.

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Re: potlatch help
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2024, 10:31:25 PM »
Weird. It wasn’t showing in mine until I toggled the entire state of Idaho filters off and then back on.

 


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