need broadhead help!

[BULLBLASTER]

I'm not doubting the Shuttle T-Lock comment, I'm just trying to figure out where it came from (fortunately, I actually hunt with G5s and have just used Shuttle Ts in practice, so good to go.  I have had good luck with G5s and see no reason to change so not too worried about it - just more of an academic exercise to help me understand the rules a bit better.)

It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with any arrow or bolt that does not have a
sharp broadhead, and the broadhead blade
or blades are less than seven-eighths inch
wide.
g. It is unlawful to hunt big game animals with
a broadhead blade unless the broadhead
is unbarbed and completely closed at
the back end of the blade or blades by
a smooth, unbroken surface starting at
maximum blade width forming a smooth
line toward the feather end of the shaft and
such line does not angle toward the point.

The Shuttle T's appear to be perpendicular to the bow in the back (not barbed) and are 1 1/8 wide, so meet the minimum requirement of 7/8 inch.  Why are these illegal?  The only other thing that I can think of is the shape of the blade?  However, I can't find anything that mentions the blade shape at the front of the broadhead (although it obviously can't be barbed on the back of the broadhead.)

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,30334.135.html

read this thread, there is a lot of good info.

[halflife65]

Yeah, thanks for pointing out that thread - don't know how I missed it the first time.  Great thread - the type of discussion that makes me happy that I belong to this site.  Really interesting for those of you who haven't read it. 

I have some comments about the response from the Trophy Taker guy but I don't want to rehash the old thread here.

[wormfood]

Thanks guys looks like I am gonna go pickup some g 5's today. Hope they work. I have 3 more dozen of the ics 340's so I guess I can try some at different lengths too. If that doesnt work then I think I will go back to the stiff old 7595's.

[MtnMuley]

Good choice. You can't go wrong with G5's.

[EastWaViking]

I shoot Beman ICS 340's and have for over 10 years now.  I use Muzzy and Muzzy MX3 heads and only shoot the practice broadheads.  Is your bow paper tuned correctly?  If your bow is tuned right, the broadheads will fly just like the field tip.

hope this helps

[JBar]

Be careful with those Shuttle T-Locks, they are not legal in Washington according to the regs and enforcement.

You can contact Mik Mikitic at 360-902-2936, hit zero and ask for Mik

Holy crap KB! Are we going there again? I thought we had enough proof and testimonials to show this was not true!  Sorry about the thread Jack!

[Turkeyman]

Calm down Titan it will be OK. 

[Titan-1]

Be careful with those Shuttle T-Locks, they are not legal in Washington according to the regs and enforcement.

You can contact Mik Mikitic at 360-902-2936, hit zero and ask for Mik

I emailed Jerrod Lile from Trophy Taker Mr. Mikitic's number so he can straighten up the miss comunication for Mr. K/B. I will post the results of there conversation when I hear back from him. If it turns out for some reason they are not legal then I guess we will go from there but I doubt it.

[WonkyWapiti]

I just found out my Triton Wac'ems are not legal!     I was testing the Shuttle T Locks and the NAP Hell Razors.  I am going with the Hell Razors, they are very similar to the Montec G5's.

[halflife65]

Does that go for the G5 Strikers as well?

[JBar]

halflife65 I'm pretty darn sure the Strikers are okay. I think they angle more than the ones in question. My buddy shoots strikers so I'll check them tomorrow just in case.

[halflife65]

Thanks JBar!

[Titan-1]

 

   State of Washington
   DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE

   Mailing Address: 600 Capitol Way N • Olympia, WA  98501-1091 • (360) 902-2200, TDD (360) 902-2207
   Main Office Location: Natural Resources Building  • 1111 Washington Street SE • Olympia, WA





August 25, 2009

Jerrod Lile
Trophy Taker, Inc
Montana

Dear Jerrod:

Thank you for inquiring about the legality of your Shuttle T-Lock and Terminal T-Lock broadheads for hunting big game in Washington State.   

The broadhead rules adopted by our state’s fish and wildlife commission require a cutting diameter no less than seven-eighths inch wide, a blade completely closed at the back end of the blade by a smooth, unbroken surface starting at the maximum blade width forming a smooth line toward the feather end of the shaft, and such line not angling towards the point.  Based on the pictures you provided it appears that your broadheads meet all of our described criteria. 

Please feel free to share a copy of this letter with your vendors and anybody else who may have questions about the legality of these broadheads for hunting big game in Washington State. 

Sincerely,



Mik Mikitik
Hunter Education Division

cc:   Lt. Crown
   Sgt. Anderson
   

[JBar]

Halflife65 your Strikers are good to go! They have about the same angle as the Shuttle T's and slicktricks! Go get em!!!

[halflife65]

Thanks JBar - I was looking at that last night, too, after I read that letter from the game warden about the Shuttle Ts that was posted (thanks for doing that, by the way.)  I came to the same conclusion that those broadheads should be ok.

It's not that I'm married to one particular broadhead and I think that there are a lot of good ones out there.  I'm just invested in the ones that I have, I have them flying nicely and it's a week before deer season starts.  All reasons that I don't want to change at this time.