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Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« on: December 10, 2011, 05:07:54 PM »
I noticed Jay Kehne was affiliated with Conservation NW. By reading the Conservation NW website they did not seem hunter friendly and did not have any affiliations with any prominent hunting organizations despite the fact they claim to be a conservatoin organization. In addition, their stance on wolf ment seem far more pro-wolf. Anyway, I thought I'd take the liberty to email Conservation NW asking what their stance was on hunting and I got a reply...it just so happend to be from the newly appointed Jay Kehne. It should be noted that I did not ask anything about predator/wolf hunting but his resopnse seem to be tailored to that exact subject. Here's what he had to say:

Conservation Northwest supports science based wildlife management and fair chase hunting according to the laws of the state.  That's the short and simple of it.  When you consider all that is encompassed in that simple statement its a lot.  It means we support predator hunting when the laws of the state support that.  If we don't think a predator population should be hunted because the science does not support that we would work very hard to try and get those laws changed and to be based on science.  If we were not successful in changing those laws then we would still support them and whatever hunt is allowed by them.  Several of our members are avid hunters, so we are not your run of the mill, greeney environmental group that doesn't understand predator prey relationships or get out in the woods during hunting seasons.  We do believe hunters are a part of the equations, just like deer, elk, and predators.  All of it needs to be managed in todays world to be successful.  I hunt deer, and elk but not cougars or bears.  I have been on bear hunts but somewhere along the line I just decided to keep to the animals that I really like to eat and I'm not that fond of bear.  Hope this helps. 
 
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 05:13:19 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 05:36:20 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

Which is a conflict of interests and hasn't been working out so well for us hunters and fisherman since the inception.   :twocents:

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 05:44:56 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....
which is a shame. Not an excuse...
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 05:49:20 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

Correct.
Which is why WDFW does not need hunters. They will always have fish and wildlife to manage with or without hunting.




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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 06:05:35 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

Correct.
Which is why WDFW does not need hunters. They will always have fish and wildlife to manage with or without hunting.

Wrong!
Hunter derived dollars are extremely important.  With out them it would be difficult to get PR dollars.  These two combined are greater than half the budget.  With out hunters they would depend on general fund dollars.  Not a lot of general fund dollars to go around.

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 06:10:40 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

Correct.
Which is why WDFW does not need hunters. They will always have fish and wildlife to manage with or without hunting.

That's why they brought the wolves in, they dont want or need hunters anymore....

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 06:27:23 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

I wish they could seperate it...It would be more transparent to the public as to what funds what.  A department of fishing and hunting would not have a budget problem.  Fishers and Hunters in this state support more nongame management than they know. Lots of federal grants (majority of nongame management $ and fisheries) need matching state funds to initiate them and guess where a lot of those matching funds come from. :dunno:  I am sure some general, some taxes on the nonconsumptive users but a majority comes from sportsman. 

By the way,  I read in the Spokesman Review that Jay Kehne is a member of Mule deer Foundation and RMEF.

Derrick Knowles (Sp?) of Conservation Northwest was also on the wolf working group who helped  develop the wolf plan.
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 06:52:11 PM »
Omak man named to Fish and Wildlife Commission

By K.C. Mehaffey
World staff writer

Thursday, December 8, 2011



Wenathcee World.

 12/07/2011 Photo provided by Jay Kehne

Jay Kehne, an Omak hunter and conservationist, was appointed to fill a vacant seat on the state Fish and Wildlife Commission.

OLYMPIA — Jay Kehne, an Omak resident and outreach associate for Conservation Northwest, was appointed to the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission, officials announced Wednesday.

Kehne, 57, was appointed by Gov. Chris Gregoire to serve a six-year term on the panel, which sets policy for the state Department of Fish and Wildlife.

“I’m excited,” Kehne said on Wednesday. “I’ve met several of the commission members, and for the most part, I think they do a good job.”

He said he appreciated their unanimous decision to approve the conservation plan for gray wolves, and is anxious to help the department implement the plan, such as finding funds to compensate ranchers who lose livestock to wolves.




 12/07/2011 Photo provided by Jay Kehne

Jay Kehne, an Omak hunter and conservationist, was appointed to fill a vacant seat on the state Fish and Wildlife Commission.

A hunter and conservationist, Kehne said he’s also excited to learn about some of the other fish and wildlife policies, from salmon to crabbing.

Kehne spent 31 years working for the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Natural Resources Conservation Service, and is a member of both the Rocky Mountain Elk and Mule Deer foundations.

He was appointed to one of three seats on the nine-member panel reserved for Eastern Washington. Three others are reserved for Western Washington residents, and three can come from anywhere in the state.

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 07:06:21 PM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

I wish they could seperate it...It would be more transparent to the public as to what funds what.  A department of fishing and hunting would not have a budget problem.  Fishers and Hunters in this state support more nongame management than they know. Lots of federal grants (majority of nongame management $ and fisheries) need matching state funds to initiate them and guess where a lot of those matching funds come from. :dunno:  I am sure some general, some taxes on the nonconsumptive users but a majority comes from sportsman. 

By the way,  I read in the Spokesman Review that Jay Kehne is a member of Mule deer Foundation and RMEF.

Derrick Knowles (Sp?) of Conservation Northwest was also on the wolf working group who helped  develop the wolf plan.
Exactely ...and we do not need this wolf lover trying to help us !!!! :bash: :bash: :sry:

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 07:12:23 PM »
I think I recall Conservation NW being very supportive of I-655.

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2011, 07:17:39 PM »
"All of it needs to be managed in todays world to be successful.  I hunt deer, and elk but not cougars or bears.  I have been on bear hunts but somewhere along the line I just decided to keep to the animals that I really like to eat and I'm not that fond of bear. " J-K
Believe it or not i think this says it all. I may not hunt bear or cougar specifically, however i understand the need to manage them. With dwindling numbers of deer and elk i would think more conservation minded hunter SHOULD specifically target bear, cougar, and coyote especailly given the severe restrictions in place. I have been thinking that I should ONLY buy bear and cougar tags because there are more now, AND the game needs some relief.  :twocents:
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 07:19:54 PM »
"All of it needs to be managed in todays world to be successful.  I hunt deer, and elk but not cougars or bears.  I have been on bear hunts but somewhere along the line I just decided to keep to the animals that I really like to eat and I'm not that fond of bear. " J-K
Believe it or not i think this says it all. I may not hunt bear or cougar specifically, however i understand the need to manage them. With dwindling numbers of deer and elk i would think more conservation minded hunter SHOULD specifically target bear, cougar, and coyote especailly given the severe restrictions in place. I have been thinking that I should ONLY buy bear and cougar tags because there are more now, AND the game needs some relief.  :twocents:


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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2011, 07:29:16 PM »
I would also say that if looked up what some of the wing nut eco freaks say about him... They are extremely happy about his appointment. You might think twice. If some DOW freak is uber happy it makes me suspect. :twocents:
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2011, 07:41:25 PM »
Lots of hunters don't help hunting.  I'm afraid Kehne is one.
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2011, 08:12:47 PM »
He will undoubtably be seated. Can the governor usurp the commission's authority and rule making process??  Or overrule the commission ??
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2011, 09:28:36 AM »
Lots of hunters don't help hunting.  I'm afraid Kehne is one.

 Which is why I contacted my senator asking for her to reject the appointment.
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 09:40:44 AM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

This is very true Tex.

As I've pointed out in numerous threads, just a few short miles east of our state you see game agencies that are about fish and wildlife, but are also very involved with the sporting community.  The farther east you go, the more involved they become.  Citizens and the game agencies are tight knit groups there.

I would point out that while we need to remember the current objectives of the WDFW - perhaps the WDFW needs to remember a few things as well.

Also - completely off that topic for that portion of the discussion ... has anyone seen Kehne?  Not to sound immature and childish, but if he's an avid elk hunter then he's hunting elk out of a blind he didn't have to walk far to reach and the elk he's hunting aren't hanging out in any tough to reach to locations.  He clearly hasn't missed a meal lately.  It just frustrates me to see yet another "expert" on our wildlife who, by appearance, hasn't set foot in a gym in some time let alone in the backcountry where the wildlife they claim to be experts on live. 

Some might flame me for saying something like that, but so be it.  It's how I feel

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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 09:52:54 AM »
Cedar, you should transfer to this thread all the dirt you dug up on Kehne.
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2011, 01:17:45 PM »
Here is my reply to Kehne's (see first post on this thread) and his 2nd response:

Thank you Jay for your reply. With Washington being the last state into the wolf issue I would hope that we don't ignore data and the effects the wolves are having on our neighboring Rocky Mtn states. Fish and Game departments are loosing support and trust from the hunting community faster than ever.  I hope as a newly appointed commission member you will not be irresponsibly and ignorantly persuaded by pro-wolf biologists trying to push an agenda in Olympia. Subjective agendas are not "science."
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2011, 08:51:45 AM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

Correct.
Which is why WDFW does not need hunters. They will always have fish and wildlife to manage with or without hunting.

That's why they brought the wolves in, they dont want or need hunters anymore....

Exactly...  Whenthere is little to hunt why need hunters?  You do not need them.  If you cannot hunt why need wildlife employees will be move into fishing then fish have feelings and the bunny huggers will move to hugging trout. 
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2011, 09:03:34 AM »
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2011, 09:34:26 AM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

... and, the WDFW needs to remember that a large chunk of their funding does come from hunters and fishermen. It's one thing to have diversity on the commission. It's another altogether to stack it against hunters to push through programs which make no sense. The wolf plan is only one such program which apparently has no basis in science or reliance on the previous experiences of other states.
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Re: Jay Kehne- Commission Appointment
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2011, 09:41:00 AM »
People need to remember that WDFW is the Dept of Fish and Wildlife, not Dept of Fishing and Hunting....

... and, the WDFW needs to remember that a large chunk of their funding does come from hunters and fishermen. It's one thing to have diversity on the commission. It's another altogether to stack it against hunters to push through programs which make no sense. The wolf plan is only one such program which apparently has no basis in science or reliance on the previous experiences of other states.

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