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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #75 on: September 11, 2012, 05:14:30 PM »
let me know, id be willing to help find the bear!!  All you gotta do is ask for help on here..
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #76 on: September 11, 2012, 05:33:27 PM »
Sounds like a rookie mistake.

Austin - you had an experienced hunter offer to help you find it.  Maybe link up with him and go search for that bear for a few more hours? 

Another thing - Try to link up with some much more experienced hunters next season.  Most people are willing to sacrifice time in August to go take someone on a bear hunt and help them out.  That will help you gain the confidence and competence you're looking for.

Don't give up on finding your bear.  Find it, skin it, and get a rug made.  It'll be a great reminder for you.

This forum could be a great asset.  Most of the guys on here are willing to help.  Ask them for help!

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #77 on: September 11, 2012, 05:41:03 PM »
You ethics nazi's sure get out of hand pretty quick, I'm with quadrafire.

I don't see how this is going to help HW grow, people scared to post up kills or dissappointments.   I'd rather people learn from their mistakes and get some decent guidance from HW then be subjected to a public flogging or crucified.

I think if some people closeby volunteered (insisted) to help find those two bears he'd have gotten the point, but it's easier to sit on your asses and type crap on the net isn't it?

I sure as hell won't be posting my critters on here, I think a lot of others refrain from doing so as well.

When you find a website where everyone has the exact same opinion it will be called "www.me.com"...this post is 6 pages of different opinions, welcome to the world wide web. Some folks DID offer help immediately, some are patting him on the back saying better luck next time and some are a bit peeved at the tone of the OP and the lack of follow up info. Hell if I was anywhere near this guy I would have offered to help! I still wouldn't have been to pleased we were looking for TWO wounded animals though... :twocents:
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #78 on: September 11, 2012, 05:47:09 PM »
The guy didn't take anyone up on the help they offered...it's no one else responsibility to make him take it. He's obviously going to do what he wants to. I'm 28 and have never bagged a bear, but I'm trying my ass off. If presented a shot I'll be doubly sure to connect. If I do connect you won't see my face again until a Bear's hanging in my garage no matter what it takes (I pack a bivy with me WHENEVER I hunt!). His first post was arrogant, claiming that Bear weren't meant to be taken with a bow...if he really wanted help he would have said something like..."I guess I'm not meant to take bear with a bow." He chose his words VERY poorly and his attitude even more poorly. It showed a great lack in judgement to attempt to take a second bear without any serious effort to find the first. As was stated before, if the bear wasn't recoverable he should have hit the range and practiced with his bow and truly studied Bear anatomy, especially the differences between Bear and Deer. If he'd done those two things I ASSURE you he wouldn't have posted a WHINE about missing a second Bear. Lastly...MANY people offered to help and he refused to take it. Sounds like he's a quick fix, instant gratification type of kid who might be better suited to target practice...paper targets don't run...or bleed. No need to track them or show them respect. It might be misplaced, but I'm angry. I've been hunting Bear since July (a lot of scouting time) and have put a lot of miles on my boots in the effort. As far as I'm concerned his two Bear are two I can't hunt and I'll put my money on the fact that he won't notch that tag until there's meat in the freezer...my  :twocents:
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #79 on: September 11, 2012, 05:50:05 PM »
 :yeah: :yeah: Shooting the second so quick is a :bdid:

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #80 on: September 11, 2012, 07:32:33 PM »
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 :yeah: :yeah: Shooting the second so quick is a :bdid:
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2012, 07:45:01 PM »
Hey good on you all that offered to help, I should have went back and reread the post so I could see there were some good offers  :chuckle:
I got hung up on the nazi police flogging this dude  :sry:

like I said, he'll just not come back to H-W but that doesn't mean he isn't still sticking bears.  I'd rather him be on H-W with his problems then just continuing on and us (H-W) be none the wiser



I wonder how many others have been drivin off the forum who could have used some help? 

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2012, 06:57:50 AM »
It is written, "ask and it shall be given unto you."  I saw no asking, in either of his posts.  Those, on this site, are more than willing to give asssistance, when it is asked for.  Some even offer immediate assistance, even when it is not asked for.  :)  This kid neither asked for assistance, nor accepted what was offered.  This only leads one to believe this young "hunter" has a toal lack of respect for the animals of the wild.  I say "hunter" because a HUNTER would not be afraid to ask for assistance, nor would a HUNTER turn it down/ignore it when offered.

I only have two pieces of advice for this young "hunter"; 1)  go back to the range and practice until next year; and, 2) while your arms are resting from shooting so much, study the anatomy of the animal(s) you are hunting so you know, EXACTLY, where to place the arrow.  Hunting is an art, not a sport; contrary to popular belief.  You have to, totally, prepare before you go on a hunt; and that includes target practice and anatomy study.

If our young "hunter" has what it takes to be a HUNTER, he will take the positive advice, offered on this thread, put it to good use, ignore the negative comments, and come back at the bear again, next year.  I would look forward to seeing him post pics of a nice bear here, NEXT YEAR.  :twocents:


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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2012, 11:12:20 PM »
Well its official, bears are not ment to be shot by a bow. My first bear I shot in the lung at 15yards in a treestand waiting for a buck, 2nd bear we were going down the road and passed a chocolate bear and I jumped out 25 yards down the road and got closer and took a 35 yard shot and I hit his lungs and he went around in circles and we couldn't find him because we couldn't tell where he was going. Now we are waiting for the birds...so if you have a blood hound and live near cle elum let me know!

I have been reading this forum for over a year and this is the first time I felt a need to post. :yike: I am a archery hunter and want to say that your comment, "bears are not ment to be shot by a bow" is completely idiotic. I have shot quite a few bear with my bow successfully and took the time to make sure and find them if they didn't drop right in site.

There were quite a few fellow hunters that offered assistance and it does not seam as if you took the offers up. This would have been a great time to learn the art of tracking animals. I take it that you lack that skill since you stated the bear spun in circles and could tell where he was going. Did you even look for him? People offer a skill like that, accept it and learn it. Just my suggestion.

I have a question. You stated, "2nd bear we were going down the road and passed a chocolate bear and I jumped out 25 yards down the road". Where you road hunting?

You stated, "so if you have a blood hound and live near cle elum let me know!" Know your laws exactly to a T when it comes to using dogs.

I am not trying to be the "Nazi Police" but if you ask for assistance and it is offered, take it! By the way... congrats on the deer.

Everyone else... Hello from North Bend!  :hello:
« Last Edit: September 13, 2012, 01:43:01 AM by NBhunter »

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2012, 11:25:47 PM »
why would you tag a bear you didnt find  :chuckle:  :dunno:  :yike: and 9 hours is plenty to look for an animal. thats a full day

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2012, 07:51:34 AM »
why would you tag a bear you didnt find  :chuckle:  :dunno:  :yike: and 9 hours is plenty to look for an animal. thats a full day
You've said that why  :stirthepot:
Let this thread be a great learning lesson for those who just like to shoot things and not really "hunt"

2 bears shot + only 9hrs of "looking"(hey is that it, nope, ok let's go) = Unethical and Lazy!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2012, 09:52:07 AM »
Guys this is a really great thread, I took a look because the plural "bears" in the title caught my eye.  I know about 10 guys I wish would read this. 

You guys that offered to take time off from your busy schedules to get out in the bush and search for an animal, other guys trying to be respectful but help someone to learn a lesson about sticking with it, and other guys letting readers know how real hunters feel about how unacceptable it is to go around plunking animals and hoping you find it.

In the south a lot of guys have lousy attitudes towards finding animals when the blood trail runs out, and figure there are enough deer running around that they can just shoot another one.  I actually had people laughing at me when it happened to me, and I wouldn't let it go. 

I screwed up on my first bow kill and hit the deer too far back, two days and nights crawling around the bush after the blood trail ran out in 100 degree heat, missing the rest of my hunting trip to search, putting myself in serious hock to plunk down $400 to hire a blood hound service, making my wife so mad that the sofa was my best friend for a couple of days, but I found the deer, (not 400 yards from where I shot it it ended up, walked by him 100 times in those two days).  Heck I got a taste for it again for about an hour when I thought I messed up a shot earlier this week, ended up I didn't when we found the elk 100 yards from where I shot it, but at least I felt like throwing up when I thought it was a bad shot.

It is damn nice to see guys so passionate about doing the right thing, this is my second season hunting up here after moving to Washington from the south, and the hunters here are a breed apart.  If we had more guys doing the right thing, hunting wouldn't have to struggle with as much bad PR.

One thought I would like to add to this the missed learning experience.  I made the bad shot, and went through the hell for it like many other guys have had to, but going through the hell was what taught me that I needed to get better at it.  Not wanting to risk that experience again is what makes you let down on the bow string when you are not sure, instead of doing something stupid. 

I think young hunters can hear the message, but you need to go through the hell to have it stick, so maybe the pain of having so many guys let him know how they feel about his decision is painful enough to help him learn the lesson anyway.

Nice to know if I ever find myself in a similar situation, there are guys who wouldn't know me from Adam that would be willing to help out!  I think that as all that needs to be said about who hunters really are, would a tree huggers come running over a lost granola bar? 

Sorry had to throw that one in :)
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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #87 on: September 16, 2012, 08:07:20 AM »
Guys this is a really great thread, I took a look because the plural "bears" in the title caught my eye.  I know about 10 guys I wish would read this. 

You guys that offered to take time off from your busy schedules to get out in the bush and search for an animal, other guys trying to be respectful but help someone to learn a lesson about sticking with it, and other guys letting readers know how real hunters feel about how unacceptable it is to go around plunking animals and hoping you find it.

In the south a lot of guys have lousy attitudes towards finding animals when the blood trail runs out, and figure there are enough deer running around that they can just shoot another one.  I actually had people laughing at me when it happened to me, and I wouldn't let it go. 

I screwed up on my first bow kill and hit the deer too far back, two days and nights crawling around the bush after the blood trail ran out in 100 degree heat, missing the rest of my hunting trip to search, putting myself in serious hock to plunk down $400 to hire a blood hound service, making my wife so mad that the sofa was my best friend for a couple of days, but I found the deer, (not 400 yards from where I shot it it ended up, walked by him 100 times in those two days).  Heck I got a taste for it again for about an hour when I thought I messed up a shot earlier this week, ended up I didn't when we found the elk 100 yards from where I shot it, but at least I felt like throwing up when I thought it was a bad shot.

It is damn nice to see guys so passionate about doing the right thing, this is my second season hunting up here after moving to Washington from the south, and the hunters here are a breed apart.  If we had more guys doing the right thing, hunting wouldn't have to struggle with as much bad PR.

One thought I would like to add to this the missed learning experience.  I made the bad shot, and went through the hell for it like many other guys have had to, but going through the hell was what taught me that I needed to get better at it.  Not wanting to risk that experience again is what makes you let down on the bow string when you are not sure, instead of doing something stupid. 

I think young hunters can hear the message, but you need to go through the hell to have it stick, so maybe the pain of having so many guys let him know how they feel about his decision is painful enough to help him learn the lesson anyway.

Nice to know if I ever find myself in a similar situation, there are guys who wouldn't know me from Adam that would be willing to help out!  I think that as all that needs to be said about who hunters really are, would a tree huggers come running over a lost granola bar? 

Sorry had to throw that one in :)

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2012, 05:23:19 PM »
First of all i was the guy that was with him and i dont even know where he hit so i dont think he knows where he hit... he shot blind because he said he couldnt see through his peep and his excuse about the other guy tagging it is not true at all... Austin next time fix ur peep after that happens so u dont shoot blind at ur buck as well and get lucky... thx lol :IBCOOL:

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Re: Lost bears...
« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2012, 06:40:05 PM »
Havent read most the posts but i feel the pain I shot one 2 years ago from a tree stand hunting deer and it was a little far back but looked to paralyze his back half...long story short great blood trail for literally half a mile but tappered out and never found him after one night and the whole next day until 3 and never found him...for now ill stick with neck and head shots with the rifle seems to stop them in there tracks and none of this tracking hard blood trails.

 


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