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Would you turn in a wolf poacher?

Yes
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No
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Total Members Voted: 303

Voting closed: October 04, 2012, 10:49:29 PM

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #225 on: October 24, 2012, 12:16:21 PM »
In this state we are currently talking about telling state officials NOT to enforce FEDERAL law when it comes to Marijuana.
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Afterall, we can't have Arizona assisting in the enforcement of federal immigration laws.   :bash:

What i was trying to say is that it seems socially acceptable to talk about enforcement when it comes to MJ or illegals but not this subject? now maybe my analogy isn't apples to apples, BUT our ability to talk about these ISSUES are. ( I just used the MJ issue because i saw another thread talking about it...)
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #226 on: October 24, 2012, 12:40:29 PM »
People in Idaho do not call it wolf poaching, it's called Protecting Idaho!

In another year or two it will be called Protecting Washington!

When some of you guys have as many wolves as we do a little closer to home, you will see the light!
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #227 on: October 24, 2012, 12:43:22 PM »
Remember, Idaho's governor even stopped the IDFG from reporting wolf poaching to the feds!
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #228 on: October 24, 2012, 12:44:32 PM »
It's like I said earlier in this thread- shooting a wolf is NOT poaching.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #229 on: October 24, 2012, 12:44:48 PM »
People in Idaho do not call it wolf poaching, it's called Protecting Idaho!

In another year or two it will be called Protecting Washington!

When some of you guys have as many wolves as we do a little closer to home, you will see the light!

Yes, and they have the support of their governor to do so. We do not. This is a huge distinction. This, however unfortunately, is not ID.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #230 on: October 24, 2012, 12:45:11 PM »
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That is kind of my point. It is only natural that we only care about what effects us. Make it know to more people, and make it affect them and they will be more inclined to care.

Pman we may have a new gov come Nov...
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #231 on: October 24, 2012, 12:48:00 PM »
For me I wish they could shoot a lot more as for seeing it I hope I don;t  because I know I would just pass on by I like deer and elk way more than wolves.

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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #232 on: October 24, 2012, 12:49:15 PM »
As stewards of the land we must protect the USA from over preditation!!!!!! :tup:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #233 on: October 24, 2012, 01:06:21 PM »
Amen for a new governor and I hear you T.

There are probably 15 wolf packs in Region 1 right now. Unfortunately WDFW does not have the staff to get them all documented, but they are here and they are eating every day. This is as true as when I told everyone two years ago that the packs they have now confirmed were already here.

In 2 or 3 years if this state sits on their a$$ about delisting and as these packs multiply it's going to be called "Protecting NE Washington". There is no way I will ever turn in my neighbors for protecting their cattle and livlihood. I would rather buy them a beer and laugh with them about the negligent management of this state.

I do not hold back, I have told people in several levels of our government that they better get a handle on this wolf issue. It's not good for wildlife management due to the fact government officials are pratically forcing rural folks to take the law in their own hands in order to protect their livlihood and people by the droves are beginning to consider shooting wolves illegally as necessary for survival because the government will not manage and does not care if wolves kill people's livlihood and neither do the wolf lovers who want wolves in our backyards. There has to be some fairness soon in this wolf plan or this whole situation will get worse just as it did in the other states. This is really only the beginning, things are going to get much, much, worse.  :twocents:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #234 on: October 24, 2012, 01:14:01 PM »
I hope I don't have to let my community down when I see a wolf because I am not going to break the law, I can't take that kind of risk. But I can tell the truth about what is happening in Idaho all day long and I can tell you that it's going to happen here in NE WA if they sit on their thumbs with delisting. There is only so much social tolerance for the likes of these wolf lovers that seem to be in control of Washington. :twocents:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #235 on: October 24, 2012, 01:29:11 PM »
I hope I don't have to let my community down when I see a wolf because I am not going to break the law, I can't take that kind of risk. But I can tell the truth about what is happening in Idaho all day long and I can tell you that it's going to happen here in NE WA if they sit on their thumbs with delisting. There is only so much social tolerance for the likes of these wolf lovers that seem to be in control of Washington. :twocents:

I absolutely understand you, Dale. And, if something has to be done, will you be starting a thread to talk about it? Hardly.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #236 on: October 24, 2012, 01:34:19 PM »
People in Idaho do not call it wolf poaching, it's called Protecting Idaho!

In another year or two it will be called Protecting Washington!

When some of you guys have as many wolves as we do a little closer to home, you will see the light!

Yes, and they have the support of their governor to do so. We do not. This is a huge distinction. This, however unfortunately, is not ID.
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #237 on: October 24, 2012, 01:50:33 PM »
I hope I don't have to let my community down when I see a wolf because I am not going to break the law, I can't take that kind of risk. But I can tell the truth about what is happening in Idaho all day long and I can tell you that it's going to happen here in NE WA if they sit on their thumbs with delisting. There is only so much social tolerance for the likes of these wolf lovers that seem to be in control of Washington. :twocents:

I absolutely understand you, Dale. And, if something has to be done, will you be starting a thread to talk about it? Hardly.

Obviously I will not be starting a topic titled "Farmer Joe gets a double on illegal wolves!"  :chuckle:

But I will have no qualm about posting a topic generalizing about what is going on because wolf lovers are controlling our government. The worst that can happen is that the wolf nazis hook me up to an electrical shocker to try and get local gossip out of me.   :chuckle:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #238 on: October 24, 2012, 02:27:44 PM »
There's local gossip?  Thats just crazy talk. :tinfoil:
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Re: Wolf poachers - would you turn one in?
« Reply #239 on: October 24, 2012, 03:22:06 PM »
I totally hate the fact that wolves were reintroduced and have become the huge game management disaster that they have become.  I worked as a hunting guide and chased the north Yellowstone elk herd in the area north of Gardener MT in the late 80's and early 90's.  I also worked on a cattle ranch on which we had forest service grazing permits in that same area for as many as 1100 head.  I know how it was then and I know how it is now since the wolves totally decimated that area.  The funny thing is there were already wolves in there that we saw on a regular basis on the north boundary of Yellowstone when the snow came.  They hung out in the area where the bighorns wintered.  We saw them and their tracks in the Ramshorn Peak area.  I have friends who hunt and guide in a lot of areas in the West and it is a disaster.  I am 100% in favor of Wyoming's wolf plan since it designates portions of the state where wolves can be and it also designates portions of the state where they just aren't going to work out.  It provides for the means to keep them out of those portions since they are basically considered a predator there.  I love that plan and wish Washington had the same one instead of the little pansy-ass plan we have.  I also know that there is "rumor" that wolves are shot on a regular basis in various western states and that the powers that be don't care.  I don't have a problem with that either, I can't afford to break a law because it could cost me my career but I don't care if discretionary enforcement is applied sometimes when it makes sense.  I just don't think we should make a point to encourage or emphasize breaking the law on this forum.  Just my opinion obviously and I accept the fact that others don't agree.
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