Columbia Plateau Wildlife Management Association Cow Permit

[quacksmoker]

My reading comprehension is just fine.. been at a college level since I was 12 years old...

I am just pointing out, there is a whole hell of a lot of help that happens on this site.  HOWEVER, bitching about someone posting on a public forum about a public raffle tag, that is in the PUBLIC hunting regs, for the entire HUNTING PUBLIC to READ.. is pretty pathetic.

just my 

and I do not post all my help in public because I like that I can help behind the scenes, and then read the success stories after the fact, and read how they followed my advice and were successful.  That said, they still had to get drawn, before they got the info,  and actually put the shoe leather on the ground, to earn the animal.

Once again, you're reading comp is suffering. Read the thread! Plz tell us where these great opportunities on draw only areas are. I need to know where to put in.

[quacksmoker]

My reading comprehension is just fine.. been at a college level since I was 12 years old...

I am just pointing out, there is a whole hell of a lot of help that happens on this site.  HOWEVER, bitching about someone posting on a public forum about a public raffle tag, that is in the PUBLIC hunting regs, for the entire HUNTING PUBLIC to READ.. is pretty pathetic.

just my 

and I do not post all my help in public because I like that I can help behind the scenes, and then read the success stories after the fact, and read how they followed my advice and were successful.  That said, they still had to get drawn, before they got the info,  and actually put the shoe leather on the ground, to earn the animal.

 

Not to mention that by flaming out over this you have ensured that this thread will get ten times as many views as it would have.

The damage has already been done.

[ellensburgpo]

There are lots of people on here who offer advice, some of it very specific. I don't think I'll bother posting coordinates to the family farm because there is a zero percent chance of a random person getting on it. The pay to play idea has been happening on lots of areas for a long time. I get where your coming from, but there isn't exactly a shortage of places to hunt in this state, public or private. Comparing Washington and Texas doesn't make sense to me because they are two very different situations.

It sounds like you had a good deal hunting private property for free and its gone now? That sucks, I've been in the same boat. I was lucky to get to hunt it for the years that I did and now somebody else is because the property sold. Oh well, I killed my best buck and bull ever this year so life goes on.

Post up the coordinates to the family farm, it's only right that everyone at least has the ability to attempt to gain access. More opportunities for everyone right?

I can already tell you the answer, no. Like huntbear said, your posts have been pretty pathetic. Everybody on here has probably lost an area to one reason or another.  You came looking for a pity party and nobody's attending.

[HighCountryHunter88]

Yes i know the exact areas of this hunt. And you know what... they are decent areas to hunt IF the elk are on there on that particular day. There are FAR BETTER properties around there and ya i have shared that info through a pm.... i would have shared with you too or anyone else who cared to ask or not act like pre schooler learning to share his color crans... good god it hunting cheney private land its the name of the game buck up or doe out

No, it becomes limited access for a very few. That's what I don't like. More competition leads to fewer hunting opportunities for myself. So next year the chance of me getting drawn is next to nothing. I understand this is selfish of me, but if you are so altruistic and want better/more opportunities for others to have good hunts, why  don't you post your honey holes here for everyone to see? It would be selfish of you not to inform everyone where they might have a better chance at success.

It's like someone coming on here and saying "I found this awesome Feel Free to Hunt area it's next to a huge wildlife refuge with monster bulls and to get access all you have to do is..." Now I bet if you hunted this same place you would be "Of F somebody just let the cat out of the bag." The last thing you would be doing is championing greater access for Washington Sportsman.

Would be nice if I had a honey hole....I have yet to even see a deer or bear at any of the places I have scouted/hunted. If anyone wants to know where I hunt though I would be happy to share. I know there are critters there cause I have seen the poop and tracks.

Let me put it another way though, that organization is a non-profit that is providing value to the landowners in exchange for access to land. Are you really so selfish that instead of having a free chance of getting drawn for access you would rather they fold up due to lack of funding/support and have nobody get access at all? Or worse have those landowners start leasing the land exclusively to outfitters instead so you can pay for the privilege of hunting there?

I take it you're not familiar with the area. Without this organization one would just have to knock on some door and talk to landowners. Don't get me wrong, what these landowners are doing is great and the access they provide is awesome. They are providing opportunities for hunters and I appreciate that. Yes, I know it is selfish of me to try and preserve limited opportunities for east side elk next to a NWR.

One day you will find a great honey hole after burning $$$ in gas, time, and sweat. Then some *censored*r will come on here and say that he killed an awesome bull in so and so area and the following year it will be be covered in people. Maybe I'm jaded, but I've seen it before.

[NWBREW]

Well isn't this a strange thread.   

[Dan-o]

I'm putting this raffle on Craigslist and Ebay.

That might keep some people off my secret raffle that's advertised in the regs......

[Scottystyle]

Quacksmokere, have a coke and a smile...it'll be ok...

Is it have a coke or snort some coke?  I think that already happened     Im curious where Quacksmoker hunts, I dunno if I would feel safe in the woods with this dude.... Just sayin   

[EDT]

Chill, Quacksmoker......we can get through this...it will be ok! 
Opps, I just bumped this so more people can see it

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Havent read much of this thread butt thanks for the reminder of this here raffle. I gots some moneies saved up and will dump it all in next go around since i should draw with all the monies i gots to put into it!!!!

[jrod]

Awhile back, I bought a few raffle tickets for one of the January cow hunts over outside of the Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge through the Columbia Plateau Wildlife Management Association.  I learned about the CPWMA from a friend of mine and purchased the tickets because the money goes to help procure access for outdoorsman on several different properties around Cheney that CPWMA manages.  I thought it was a worth while group, so I decided to give away a few dollars to help a good cause.

So this morning, I got an email from them saying I was drawn for one of the 1/1-1/15 cow permits.  I don't ever seem to be the "lucky" one, so it was kind of



shocking to me that I was actually drawn.  I will still be able to hunt Modern on the Westside, but I am excited to do a little elk hunting in January if I don't tag out on a bull in November.

Have any of you guys ever been drawn for one of these permits or hunted elk around the Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge?  I want to educate myself on this area since I have never hunted any of their properties, so any pointers or information about this area would be appreciated.

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Weren't u raisin hell on here not 2 long ago about people gettin drawn & fishin fer info on areas they had no idea about??   Typical fer  a rich coastie ta buy a B.S cow elk raffle tag anyway!!!

[quacksmoker]

What you guys fail to understand is the greater implications of posting info like this on the internet. I could care less about the raffle and I am glad to see that many of you missed some really important information.

Let's switch roles for a moment. Say you found a nice piece of state land, a good feel free to hunt area, or a unique opportunity to access private land. Yes the information is public knowledge but it takes some effort to find. Then some one comes on here and provides detailed information about it. Would you be happy? Would it be childish to want to keep this information quiet? The impression I am getting is that all this information should be shared openly.

If you have no problem, post up your hunting spots. This forum is meant to help hunters and by posting it openly you will allow other hunters to find a good hunting  spot. If you wouldn't want this information to be shared to thousands of hunters, then I suggest you reevaluate your opinions.

Flame away. If makes no difference to me. Is it selfish of me to not want this information shared publicly? Yes, but who would be happy if their hunting opportunities were limited because of a stupid post on the internet? It was probably a poor decision on my part to even mention something in the first place, but the title of the thread alone made it to the front page of Google.

I'm done with this, but look forward to all the new threads detailing how to access your hunting areas.

[ellensburgpo]

Your "honey hole" is advertised is the hunting regs...not much of a secret.

[Atroxus]

Let's switch roles for a moment. Say you found a nice piece of state land, a good feel free to hunt area, or a unique opportunity to access private land. Yes the information is public knowledge but it takes some effort to find. Then some one comes on here and provides detailed information about it. Would you be happy? Would it be childish to want to keep this information quiet? The impression I am getting is that all this information should be shared openly.

You are comparing apples to oranges. The land for these raffle hunts is not state land, it is private land; and its not feel free to hunt, it's hunt by permit only. More people finding out about the raffle might reduce odds of getting drawn, but the flip side is more funding for that organization could also mean that they continue operating and getting more opportunities for hunters to get access to private land.

[quacksmoker]

It makes me very happy to see that you guys have have failed to get my point. As I said, I am not concerned about the raffle. Once you figure it out, let me know.

[ellensburgpo]

I understand your point, and I sympathize with you. I've had good spots burned by people talking about them on this and other sites. It sucks, but its not the end of the world. This site has helped me in positive ways more then it has hurt me. Gotta take the good with the bad.