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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2012, 05:36:02 PM »
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

Put an apple on a fence post at 300 yds. and I'll show you the difference.  Even at 200 and 100.   :chuckle:  Ya SOMETIMES there can be 2 inches difference at a 100 yds with different bullets.  Remember he shoots 223 not an 06.  I agree with Gringo, hp's are better with that caliber.  :hello:   

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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2012, 06:53:32 PM »
 :) 223 vmaxs kill em good at 55 grain from my 223, my experience is they make big holes. I use Hornady soft point 223/55 grain, kills good small hole. fmj's in my guns have never shot very acurately, do not kill for crap, lots of runners, have heard they ricochet bad :dunno:
In my 243 I like 80-85 grain, soft point and TSX.
Shot a few with a .22 LR, better be very close and get a good shot opportunity, certainly a VERY low percentage round.

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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2012, 06:57:29 PM »
:) 223 vmaxs kill em good at 55 grain from my 223, my experience is they make big holes. I use Hornady soft point 223/55 grain, kills good small hole. fmj's in my guns have never shot very acurately, do not kill for crap, lots of runners, have heard they ricochet bad :dunno:
In my 243 I like 80-85 grain, soft point and TSX.
Shot a few with a .22 LR, better be very close and get a good shot opportunity, certainly a VERY low percentage round.

Whole deal depends on your mid set, what is acceptable to you?, I am not out calling to screw around, I want them dead, now, and move on.
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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2012, 07:53:11 PM »
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

Put an apple on a fence post at 300 yds. and I'll show you the difference.  Even at 200 and 100.   :chuckle:  Ya SOMETIMES there can be 2 inches difference at a 100 yds with different bullets.  Remember he shoots 223 not an 06.  I agree with Gringo, hp's are better with that caliber.  :hello:

2 in aimed center mass still equals dead coyote... HP will  put them down quicker in that caliber sure... but we still have used FMJ in the bro inlaws AR and it gets the job done...
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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2012, 06:31:30 AM »
wannabhntr,

You would be better served by knowing rather than guessing on bullet placement, every rife is different as is every brand/design of bullet. I have had several inches of variation between point of impact by simply switching from Nosler to Hornady both being 55 grain Polymer tipped bullets even though you would think they would shoot to the same point of aim. It has to due with many variables in the bullet construction and design. If someone gets a two inch point of impact difference at 100 yards for deer hunting it will not make much difference in killing of the animal but a two inch POI on a coyote can make all the difference in the world in bang flops or runners. 

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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2012, 06:35:22 AM »
wannabhntr,

You would be better served by knowing rather than guessing on bullet placement, every rife is different as is every brand/design of bullet. I have had several inches of variation between point of impact by simply switching from Nosler to Hornady both being 55 grain Polymer tipped bullets even though you would think they would shoot to the same point of aim. It has to due with many variables in the bullet construction and design. If someone gets a two inch point of impact difference at 100 yards for deer hunting it will not make much difference in killing of the animal but a two inch POI on a coyote can make all the difference in the world in bang flops or runners. 

Feel more confident in your equipment by taking the guess work out of the equation.
:yeah:....Pick a bullet and propellent combination based on the advise given and stick with it.
Then shoot it until you can achieve a tight group consistently. Shoot the yote in the shoulder and it's all over! 
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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2012, 06:39:57 AM »
I love your Sig line  :tup:


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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2012, 06:47:13 AM »
While it is hard to say what is going to work best for you and your rifle I reload my own bullets and what works best in my nail driving 22-250 Sako is Sierra 50 gr spitzers pushed by 37 grains of IMR 4064 using federal 210 primers. 2 inches high @100 yards gives me a hold on target, MPBR (maximum point blank range)out to 365 yards cover 5 shots at 100 yards with a dime so it would all depend on what gives you the most accuracy from your particular rifle.
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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2012, 06:58:41 AM »
I love your Sig line  :tup:


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Lol, thanks.
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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2012, 11:18:47 AM »
FMJ's more often than not will squirt right on through a thin-skinned animal like a coyote and not do enough damage to put the animal down humanely and will usually require follow-up shots.  Hollow points go in small and usually rip a hole big enough for your fist on the other side if they don't hit something solid.  There are lots of in-between style bullets that hold together pretty well.  I would suggest the Hornady V-Max in a 52 grain.  And although they are technically hollow points, I really like the Berger 50 & 52 grain bullets.  I shoot those in my .223 and .22-250 with really good results as far as kill and minimal pelt damage.  You're always going to get one that blows out here and there, but overall those two bullets hold together pretty well.

This is just my  :twocents:   Everyone has theirs as well....

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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2012, 11:24:52 AM »
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

Put an apple on a fence post at 300 yds. and I'll show you the difference.  Even at 200 and 100.   :chuckle:  Ya SOMETIMES there can be 2 inches difference at a 100 yds with different bullets.  Remember he shoots 223 not an 06.  I agree with Gringo, hp's are better with that caliber.  :hello:

Not at 250 yards it doesn't.  I had your idea with my .300 and bought cheap rounds for shooting yotes.  They were a good 3 inches different at 100 yards, meaning at 200 I couldn't count on them to even hit the yote, let alone hit it somewhere good.

2 in aimed center mass still equals dead coyote... HP will  put them down quicker in that caliber sure... but we still have used FMJ in the bro inlaws AR and it gets the job done...

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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2012, 01:39:15 PM »
When I run into them it's usually a 100 gr Honady BTSP... It can make a mess though... Or my 50 cal 295 gr PB from the muzzy.... Those really make a mess.... 

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Re: Bullets for Coyotes?
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2012, 12:56:45 PM »
IMO different zeros really only matter out past 300 yards. If your shooting out that far you are more likely to be interested in those kinds of details.  :twocents:   I shoot 165 grain FMJ and 165 grain hunting rounds, and i cannot tell you there is enough difference in my 06 for me to care. IF i had the skill to whack a coyote at 600yards with my 06 then i might, but then again i'm curiouse what the difference is, not likely much.

I also occasionally use an 06 on yotes, mostly because Barnes makes a sold 1656gr bullet that shoots to about the same point of aim as the 168 grain Barnes that I typically shoot in an 06.  Most of the time I use an AR shooting 55gr Sierra Gamekings, or a 22-250 shooting 50 or 55 grain bullets.

When you have yotes that are hanging up at 400 yards or more I think an 06 is a great choice.  At 400 yards a 165 grain bullet shot from an 06 (around 3,000 fps at the muzzle) has as much energy as a 22-250 shooting a 50 grain bullet (around 3,900 fps) has at the muzzle.  Depending on where my son and I are hunting, we often times make sure one of us has an 06 for long pokes. 

 


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