Tribal hunting bills introduced

[Time Immemorial]

 

[lokidog]

Surprise, special interest wins out again, let's make the special ones more special.     Hopefully the Senate doesn't have their heads so far up the special interest butt that they can see the damage this will do to wildlife.

Too bad our illustrious, "one with nature" brothers on here need so much help to destroy the resource they profess to love.  Oh, oh, I must be a racist...    because I think that having unmanaged access to a PUBLIC resource is bad.

[Practical Approach]

I found it interesting that with all of the hoopla and banter on this website regarding these bills, that nobody had the time to provide public testimony.  Very surprising.

[CP]

5 of the 9 committee members including the chair are sponsors of these bills.  I’d expect nothing less than a free ride through committee.

[lokidog]

I found it interesting that with all of the hoopla and banter on this website regarding these bills, that nobody had the time to provide public testimony.  Very surprising.

Some of us actually work for a living.................

[woodswalker]

I found it interesting that with all of the hoopla and banter on this website regarding these bills, that nobody had the time to provide public testimony.  Very surprising.

That just might be because some of us work for a living and cannot just hie off willy-nilly to run defend against things that should never have gained traction were the folks in the Marble Zoo worth their salt.

[Practical Approach]

I found it interesting that with all of the hoopla and banter on this website regarding these bills, that nobody had the time to provide public testimony.  Very surprising.

Some of us actually work for a living.................

I figured that would be the predictable answer.  Some do work for a living, however some don't work Tuesdays and some are even retired.  Some might even be able to take a few hours off or a day if they thought it was important enough.  Some might get together and pay someone to represent their position. 

Then some might just make excuses.

[bobcat]

This is the problem with allowing the tribes to have a monopoly on gambling in this state. They now have more money than they know what to do with, and of course much of it ends up in the pockets of our politicians.

I wouldn't be surprised in the future if they just flat out turned Washington state over to the tribes. This is sickening. At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite.         

[Green broke]

Surprise, special interest wins out again, let's make the special ones more special.     Hopefully the Senate doesn't have their heads so far up the special interest butt that they can see the damage this will do to wildlife.

Too bad our illustrious, "one with nature" brothers on here need so much help to destroy the resource they profess to love.  Oh, oh, I must be a racist...    because I think that having unmanaged access to a PUBLIC resource is bad.

If I wasn't at work I would offer you a hug.

[blackdog]

Hope folks take the time to contact their legislators regarding these Bills.

[BOWHUNTER45]

This is the problem with allowing the tribes to have a monopoly on gambling in this state. They now have more money than they know what to do with, and of course much of it ends up in the pockets of our politicians.

I wouldn't be surprised in the future if they just flat out turned Washington state over to the tribes. This is sickening. At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite.         

Thats where I am coming from ...100% A FACT ! 

[Green broke]

At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite.
 This comment strikes me as odd in ways. Several tribes (not all) are concentrating on management where in the past it was never a point of focus. Bowhunter45 correct me if I'm wrong but I believed you have even recognized some of the efforts of the tribes when it comes to wildlife management.
 We  could go back to a time and place where tribes had no regulations or concern for the management side of wildlife. Tribes are becoming more proactive than ever before (at least in my lifetime). Each tribe has the ability to make as liberal or as strict of season/bag limit as they choose. I have said before the trend is definitely towards conservation and proper management to ensure animals for future generations.
 I would have to say I would entrust my future herds to certain tribes natural resource programs before I would give it to the WDFW. That said there are some really competent professionals in the WDFW they just seem to have their reins pulled too tight, weather it be funding issues or departmental politics.

[Practical Approach]

This is the problem with allowing the tribes to have a monopoly on gambling in this state. They now have more money than they know what to do with, and of course much of it ends up in the pockets of our politicians.

I wouldn't be surprised in the future if they just flat out turned Washington state over to the tribes. This is sickening. At a time when our state government should be pulling in the reins on the Indians, they do the opposite.         

Thats where I am coming from ...100% A FACT ! 

Allowing?  The state has gambling,  plenty of private casinos out there, oh how about the state run lottery.  The state regulates how their casinos operate. 

Tribes have more money than they know what to do with? Has anyone been to a reservation and seen some of the hardship and poverty?  I don't doubt tribes support politicians that support tribal interests.  Thats the American way. Been that way since the U.S. was formed. 

Why is it a time that the state should be reining in tribes??? What happened that makes this the time?  I hope folks realize the state doesn't reign in tribal rights.  Tribal rights were agreed upon in Federal treaties that trump a lot of the states ability to "reighn" in Indians. 

[bobcat]

Why is it a time that the state should be reining in tribes??? What happened that makes this the time?  I hope folks realize the state doesn't reign in tribal rights.  Tribal rights were agreed upon in Federal treaties that trump a lot of the states ability to "reighn" in Indians. 

Because, more and more, Indians are taking advantage of their treaty rights by hunting for trophy-sized animals. They're not hunting to feed their families or to provide food for some sort of traditional ceremony. If that were the case they wouldn't be going out on the winter range and killing all of the biggest bucks and bulls that are available. And then entering those heads in a contest at the Sportsman Show. Or selling them on eBay.

It's obvious some of these tribal members couldn't care less about conserving the state's deer and elk for future generations. The tribes right now are trying to get a bill passed that will allow them access with motorized vehicles behind locked gates on state land, and another bill that takes away the state's right to enforce wildlife laws when a tribal member is in violation. The treaties didn't give them the right to drive anywhere they want. That's what I'm talking about.

[Practical Approach]

I will leave it up to attorneys as to whether they are taking advantage or finally being able to utilize their treaty rights.  Trophy animals?  Who cares?   If this state cared about trophy animals it would have a permit system instead of a giant free for all.  I think most feed their families and provide to the tribe and ceremonies.  Sure there are some that don't.  There is always the exception to the rule. 

I am not a trophy hunter so I will leave the Sportsman show issue up to you and your judgement.  I don't know how those operate.  However, I thought that animals killed with a tribal tag were not eligable for Boone and Crocket or Pope and Young.  Maybe Sportsman shows are different.  Selling them on Ebay.  I haven't seen that yet.  I do see a lot of people selling sheds though.