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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2013, 03:31:52 PM »
First off I would ask why and what gave you this idea? Secondly is it legal to shoot carp?
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2013, 07:27:37 PM »
... Secondly is it legal to shoot carp?

Excellent question. The are not a game fish but rather a food fish.....  Anyone know?
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2013, 07:31:50 PM »
I think you can kill carp any way you want, kind of like starlings. The state doesn't want them around , they're an invasive, non-native species.
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2013, 07:37:21 PM »
I think you can kill carp anyway you want, kind of like starlings. The state doesn't want them around , they're an invasive, non-native species.
You don't even need a license for some carp do you  :dunno:
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2013, 07:53:34 PM »
... Secondly is it legal to shoot carp?

Excellent question. The are not a game fish but rather a food fish.....  Anyone know?
I know there are a bunch of them in Long Lake over here but have heard from people they taste terrible.
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2013, 07:55:15 PM »
Ya there are some big uglys in Long.
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2013, 08:01:59 PM »
My cousin and I spent about 3 hours one day trying everything in the tackle box trying to get one. They were in about 5 feet of water and nothing. Finally talked to some guys bow fishing them and they said that is the only way.
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2013, 08:02:25 PM »
i think you need a fishing liscense to fish for them .  that is a good question , can you shoot them and be underwater.  i dont want to gve anyone ideas, but dont use hollowpoints.   the youtube stuff was great.   mike w

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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2013, 08:10:03 PM »
My cousin and I spent about 3 hours one day trying everything in the tackle box trying to get one. They were in about 5 feet of water and nothing. Finally talked to some guys bow fishing them and they said that is the only way.
Treble hook gets em' every time  :chuckle:
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2013, 08:10:41 PM »
My cousin and I spent about 3 hours one day trying everything in the tackle box trying to get one. They were in about 5 feet of water and nothing. Finally talked to some guys bow fishing them and they said that is the only way.

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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2013, 08:12:15 PM »
Thanks Ice I will give that a try. Those big suckers look like they would put up a good fight.
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2013, 08:36:35 PM »
I figure the sound isn't as strong.  The projectile was observed going only a few feet.  That makes sense because it was launched in an environment 780 times as dense as air.  Nearly all the energy released was used to move the bullet through the barrel pushing the water ahead of it... so probably not that much sound at all.  Might be able to wreck your ears if you wrap the gun, keeping it dry in an ziplock back and then shoot it underwater, projectile will go much further, probably ricochet depending on the angle it enters the water.  Just a guess.  Not going to try it.

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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2013, 08:42:33 PM »
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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2013, 09:06:15 PM »
I remember an article in a major shooting mag (Guns & Ammo, Shooting Times, ?), can't remember which but a 1st gen G17 had been subjected to numerous torture tests since new (shortly after Glocks were marketed here when they were said to be utterly ugly, unreliable, delicate pieces of junk; since proven to be utterly unstoppable but still ugly). Very little cleaning, care, etc. and tortured to the tune of something like 20,000+ rounds after being dropped, run over, buried in dirt and mud...  The test was to shoot it under water (a common shark killer/deterrent) and then leave it submerged in the reef for 6 (3?) months before taking it out and accessing its condition, which was unchanged except for a small rust spot on the slide. After stripping and wiping clean it was fired with no ill results. Final test was burying it in a pile of cow crap and then firing it without cleaning.

Long story short, a major gun mag talked about firing a Glock fully submerged ( may have used a low mass firing pin but can't remember).

Bang sticks are either 12 gauge shells or other small arms bullets set up to fire on contact with a sharks head/body while SCUBA diving with no issues. sound should be no problem as much of the sound associated with shooting is muzzle blast and/or the bullet breaking the speed of sound.

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Re: underwater bang?
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2013, 07:44:22 AM »
I just can't see any reason why I would treat one og my weapons to that kind of abuse?
The pressures within the chamber must be incredible.
I guess it goes in the catagory of
"Just because you can, does not mean you should"
 or better yet
"why the heck would you"

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