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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2013, 02:13:19 PM »
Goodbye Colockum herd.....  :bash:

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2013, 02:28:35 PM »
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“At first I thought it was a coyote,” said Monette, of Chelan. “Then I realized it was a wolf. It was like seeing a UFO. I had to stop and get my camera out of my backpack. I thought it would take off, but it just kept coming at me.”

WDFW has told me that wolves are skiddish and will run away at the sight of humans...

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2013, 03:01:58 PM »
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“At first I thought it was a coyote,” said Monette, of Chelan. “Then I realized it was a wolf. It was like seeing a UFO. I had to stop and get my camera out of my backpack. I thought it would take off, but it just kept coming at me.”

WDFW has told me that wolves are skiddish and will run away at the sight of humans...

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2013, 03:06:35 PM »
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“At first I thought it was a coyote,” said Monette, of Chelan. “Then I realized it was a wolf. It was like seeing a UFO. I had to stop and get my camera out of my backpack. I thought it would take off, but it just kept coming at me.”

WDFW has told me that wolves are skiddish and will run away at the sight of humans...

 :chuckle:

Probably a cougar!

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #64 on: March 26, 2013, 03:09:13 PM »
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“At first I thought it was a coyote,” said Monette, of Chelan. “Then I realized it was a wolf. It was like seeing a UFO. I had to stop and get my camera out of my backpack. I thought it would take off, but it just kept coming at me.”

WDFW has told me that wolves are skiddish and will run away at the sight of humans...
That is a great company line and hey if they are not skiddish and they actually attack and eat someone, who is gonna know, the only witness is dead and eaten by a skiddish predator that travels in packs. :chuckle:
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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2013, 06:00:58 PM »
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“At first I thought it was a coyote,” said Monette, of Chelan. “Then I realized it was a wolf. It was like seeing a UFO. I had to stop and get my camera out of my backpack. I thought it would take off, but it just kept coming at me.”

WDFW has told me that wolves are skiddish and will run away at the sight of humans...
That is a great company line and hey if they are not skiddish and they actually attack and eat someone, who is gonna know, the only witness is dead and eaten by a skiddish predator that travels in packs. :chuckle:

That is some good logic there!

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2013, 06:18:45 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2013, 06:31:18 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.
Have you looked at all the criteria required to qualify for a confirmed wolf attack?  It really wasn't possible to confirm an attack before extirpation because the amount of investigation that has to occur.  Things like:  the animal has to be examined by a trained biologist, it has to be found free of any disease, it has to be found to be pure wolf, etc.  They couldn't test wolves live they do now, nor was it usually a trained biologist, nor could they determine if any hybrid breeding had occurred.  So, most of the historical account of wolves is discounted.

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2013, 06:40:31 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.
Have you looked at all the criteria required to qualify for a confirmed wolf attack?  It really wasn't possible to confirm an attack before extirpation because the amount of investigation that has to occur.  Things like:  the animal has to be examined by a trained biologist, it has to be found free of any disease, it has to be found to be pure wolf, etc.  They couldn't test wolves live they do now, nor was it usually a trained biologist, nor could they determine if any hybrid breeding had occurred.  So, most of the historical account of wolves is discounted.


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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2013, 08:27:16 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

Just a few examples, and these wolves weren't as big as the wolves that Ed bangs brought down from Alberta.
http://www.aws.vcn.com/wolf_attacks_on_humans.html

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2013, 12:49:25 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

I was prey tested by two wolves. They were charging me and close enough that when I ran out of rocks, I was hitting them in the face with large grain sand/rocks. They had ZERO fear even when I fired my gun. You will never convince me that these opportunistic apex predators don't pose a threat to humans when the right situation arises.
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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2013, 12:56:36 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

I was prey tested by two wolves. They were charging me and close enough that when I ran out of rocks, I was hitting them in the face with large grain sand/rocks. They had ZERO fear even when I fired my gun. You will never convince me that these opportunistic apex predators don't pose a threat to humans when the right situation arises.

Wow, thats more restraint than I would have shown.

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2013, 01:11:10 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

I was prey tested by two wolves. They were charging me and close enough that when I ran out of rocks, I was hitting them in the face with large grain sand/rocks. They had ZERO fear even when I fired my gun. You will never convince me that these opportunistic apex predators don't pose a threat to humans when the right situation arises.

To date, more people have been attacked and killed by mountain lions and bear in North America than by wolves. Until that statistic changes, people will continue to see wolves as shy and not too threatening. In other words, the naysayers aren't listening.

Side note, do you know if you were near a kill or den when your encounter happened?

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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #73 on: March 27, 2013, 01:18:34 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

I was prey tested by two wolves. They were charging me and close enough that when I ran out of rocks, I was hitting them in the face with large grain sand/rocks. They had ZERO fear even when I fired my gun. You will never convince me that these opportunistic apex predators don't pose a threat to humans when the right situation arises.

To date, more people have been attacked and killed by mountain lions and bear in North America than by wolves. Until that statistic changes, people will continue to see wolves as shy and not too threatening. In other words, the naysayers aren't listening.

Side note, do you know if you were near a kill or den when your encounter happened?

Yes, because wolves have been gone for 70 years, those stats would make sense. However, their meteoric rise in population over the last 15 years will lead to a changing of the guard for human-killing predators. They are predators of opportunity and will continue to find easy prey. Small humans will start to be attacked much more frequently. If you don't think it's so, you haven't been paying attention to the news reports from ID, MT AK, and AB.
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Re: Wolves in the Entiat
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2013, 01:32:09 PM »
Wolves eating people? Are you serious? Read the stats: 1 or possibly 2 in the recorded history of North America, and one of them (IMO) may have been a major part of the problem.

I was prey tested by two wolves. They were charging me and close enough that when I ran out of rocks, I was hitting them in the face with large grain sand/rocks. They had ZERO fear even when I fired my gun. You will never convince me that these opportunistic apex predators don't pose a threat to humans when the right situation arises.

To date, more people have been attacked and killed by mountain lions and bear in North America than by wolves. Until that statistic changes, people will continue to see wolves as shy and not too threatening. In other words, the naysayers aren't listening.

Side note, do you know if you were near a kill or den when your encounter happened?

Yes, because wolves have been gone for 70 years, those stats would make sense. However, their meteoric rise in population over the last 15 years will lead to a changing of the guard for human-killing predators. They are predators of opportunity and will continue to find easy prey. Small humans will start to be attacked much more frequently. If you don't think it's so, you haven't been paying attention to the news reports from ID, MT AK, and AB.

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