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What about for situations you cannot anticipate, like injuries etc? My medic kit is probably the heaviest thing I have on me that barely gets any use. Some say Im alittle overprepared, but I dont think thats possible. Plus I carry an extra 300 foot rope with a carabiner secured to one end incase someone falls somewhere that you absolutely would need a rope. It probably weighs 5-6lbs alone, and only has a weight capacity of about 200lbs max. Thinking of just switching to 7 strand 550 cord. If it stands true it should be better, plus paracord weighs virtually nothing. I wear 2 quick strip survival bracelets I made that have about 15-20 feet per.
Quote from: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2013, 09:58:21 AMAs you get older, you'll want to reduce the weight. There is no reason to take things you won't use, using energy that you don't need to. Your hunt/hike will be much more enjoyable by carrying less weight. You're also preparing to bring out more weight (deboned animal), than you took in with you. Sure, you'll have eaten some food/weight, but that is nothing compared to bringing out quarters of a deer along with all your gear. -SteveWhat about for situations you cannot anticipate, like injuries etc? My medic kit is probably the heaviest thing I have on me that barely gets any use. Some say Im alittle overprepared, but I dont think thats possible. Plus I carry an extra 300 foot rope with a carabiner secured to one end incase someone falls somewhere that you absolutely would need a rope. It probably weighs 5-6lbs alone, and only has a weight capacity of about 200lbs max. Thinking of just switching to 7 strand 550 cord. If it stands true it should be better, plus paracord weighs virtually nothing. I wear 2 quick strip survival bracelets I made that have about 15-20 feet per.
As you get older, you'll want to reduce the weight. There is no reason to take things you won't use, using energy that you don't need to. Your hunt/hike will be much more enjoyable by carrying less weight. You're also preparing to bring out more weight (deboned animal), than you took in with you. Sure, you'll have eaten some food/weight, but that is nothing compared to bringing out quarters of a deer along with all your gear. -Steve
Quote from: JPhelps on February 19, 2013, 10:30:54 AMMy medical kit includes duct tape, ibprufeon, and vicadin. If I can't fix it with that I can't fix it.lol I should strip my med kit down and take a photo, half of you would probably laugh at me.
My medical kit includes duct tape, ibprufeon, and vicadin. If I can't fix it with that I can't fix it.
Quote from: Mudman on February 18, 2013, 10:49:21 PMYour nuts dude! Pictures! I wanna see this pack loaded up and its weight!! Are your legs bigger than your waist? I'm just puting it out there to pay back the input at ideas i've collected from others.Sounds like you've got a much better back country system and much lighter pack list - i'd like to hear what's in it. Would you mind sharing?
Your nuts dude! Pictures! I wanna see this pack loaded up and its weight!! Are your legs bigger than your waist?
Quote from: fillthefreezer on February 19, 2013, 09:55:18 AMQuote from: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2013, 09:47:29 AM These weights are in ounces? Your pack weighs 8 pounds empty? Your water filter/purification weighs 3oz? But you carry a gallon of water? 10 pounds of food for every day? No mechanical compass? What's your 'meat kit'? No binoculars? You carry a range finder, but what are the realistic shooting distances for your hunt? Room for improvement....let me clarify some things, my compass is in my emergency kit, 10lbs of food is for a 7day hunt. i run a kifaru long hunter with xtl lid. before this season i might end up with a bikini frame and that would shave about 2.5lbs right there. meat kit contents are listed at the bottom. sawyer inline water filter with potable aqua tabs also in my emerg kit. my effective shooting range is 450yds. I think you could be due for a lighter quality pack and ditch that much water. This could save you at least six pounds. -Steve
Quote from: JackOfAllTrades on February 19, 2013, 09:47:29 AM These weights are in ounces? Your pack weighs 8 pounds empty? Your water filter/purification weighs 3oz? But you carry a gallon of water? 10 pounds of food for every day? No mechanical compass? What's your 'meat kit'? No binoculars? You carry a range finder, but what are the realistic shooting distances for your hunt? Room for improvement....let me clarify some things, my compass is in my emergency kit, 10lbs of food is for a 7day hunt. i run a kifaru long hunter with xtl lid. before this season i might end up with a bikini frame and that would shave about 2.5lbs right there. meat kit contents are listed at the bottom. sawyer inline water filter with potable aqua tabs also in my emerg kit. my effective shooting range is 450yds.
These weights are in ounces? Your pack weighs 8 pounds empty? Your water filter/purification weighs 3oz? But you carry a gallon of water? 10 pounds of food for every day? No mechanical compass? What's your 'meat kit'? No binoculars? You carry a range finder, but what are the realistic shooting distances for your hunt? Room for improvement....
You guys have all mentioned things I have used and still do.....most anyways. I think the single mot important thing in my back country pack is vaseline soaked cotton balls and flint. If you can't start a fire in ANY condition then you have no need for comfy feet or a soft pad. Food ? That's great but, as tall and skinny as I am I have gone 10 days with no food and only water. I know a lot of you have spent cold lonely nights on a mountain, but if the weather is really bad and your 10-15 miles in the back country, and suffering first stages of hypothermia and your a couple miles from base camp, do you really need that sandwich or sleeping pad? Nope you need a fire. I have helped too many people start a fire In those exact conditions. Many of whom probably would not have made it off the mountain.I love the luxuries......don't get me wrong, but if you can't build the most basic thing for survival (fire) then all of those luxuries are for not. You can buy fancy fire starters, waterproof mat he's lighters etc, but the only thing that. Works 100% of the time, even when wet is Vaseline soaked cotton balls.Ok I'm off my soap box. Just remember the scout motto "Be Prepared" and if being comfortable fits in there somewhere that's great too! Great point Buck man. Another good trick is to get yourself a pint tube of osi quad pro series caulking. Freeze it and then cut into two inch chucks and vacuum pack. That stuff will burn underwater. That and a contractor grade garbage sack and you have yourself a pretty warm poncho/tent. Cut holes for head and arms.for a poor mans rain poncho. I have hovered through the night over one in deep snow and freezing temps and made it. Sterno cans for warming chafing dishes work good also and don't smell as bad but they won't burn in monsoon conditionsI have also used them under the exhaust manifolds of snow machines to get them started in minus temps. in the Arctic. Learned fast not to shut off your iron Huskey when your out on the ice pack of the beufuert sea taking pics of Polar bears!
I certainly don't have it dialed yet! I doubt I ever will. I'm not a minimalist, but I'm still trying to see where I can shave a couple pounds so I can put the spotting scope and tripod back in. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=97940.0;attach=211450;image -Steve-