20 dollar registration fee to take hunter safety class SHB 1199

[ghosthunter]

Well I don't know of any H.E. program getting thousands. And I have been doing it around 18 years.

The problems , some already stated.
No Shows as much as 25%.
Donations to a Hunter Ed Program (any city) both in cash and goods unrecorded.
Solicitation of goods in the name of H.E. unrecorded.

As a instructor I do not want to collect money for the state. If the state wants the money they need to collect it and keep track of it. Thus when a student signs up for my class on line.

If people want to donate I tell them to give it to the sponsoring club not to me. I just stay out of it.

[h2ofowlr]

Good deal!  Charge $20 each time you take the course.  I know some parents push their kids through it way to early in order to put them in for special hunts.  This may help get people that want to and are ready for the course.  All in all, $20 is a small fee to pay.

[Skyvalhunter]

Heck why not charge $40 the general fund needs more money anyhow

[arees]

Make it $1000 and there will be plenty of open seats in the classes.  Problem solved.

[bigtex]

How am I degrading the program? Did you watch the bills where WDFW testified? I am guessing you didn't. If you did you would see the WDFW LE Chief talk about how WDFW doesn't know how much cash is flowing into these "donation" sites. Why? Because there is no statewide accounting system. Some classes ask for donations, others don't.

If you have an issue with my statement then watch the video which I have posted on this site and you will see WDFW saying the same thing!

Bigtex, with these comments you just showed your true self, do you have  any idea who build the current Hunter Education program, no you don't because there the ones that your degrading.



 

1- Money is being pocketed by the instructors, not being provided to WDFW. How much money is being given to these instructors? $1,000 or $100,000? Under the current system WDFW doesn’t know

Yes, there are always a few bad apples but to make a statement like that is offensive to the vast majority of dedicated volunteer instructors who don't get a penny.

  x 2. I get nothing from HE but the satisfaction of helping people become hunters. I'm not alone.

[bigtex]

Heck why not charge $40 the general fund needs more money anyhow

All WDFW Fishing and Hunting licenses go into the Wildlife Fund. Very little WDFW money goes into the general fund anymore

[bigtex]

To hear/watch WDFW's reasoning on the fee and going away from "donations" watch this hearing:

http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013010133#start=830&stop=986

Obviously I do not think HE Instructors are making a second income off of this program. Is there a possibility some are getting some extra cash (getting $70 in donations for $50 worth of supplies) maybe. This new system will eliminate that. Instead of instructors asking for donations they will simply submit receipts to WDFW for reimbursement.

If any of you purchase something for your job using your own money and they reimburse you what do they go by; your word or a receipt?

[Elkaholic daWg]

BOTH saying it makes it right??? Sounds more  like a couple govt. workers forgetting they are public servants. These instuctors deserve  more respect than that. How much did many spend on classroom tools (weapons) that DFW decided to replace  with their "fake" guns? Regulate and fee up! (The new name for Washington taxes before the 60% majority was killed again by  the gang of 6)
 If we can't trust HE instructors any more than government workers we are in BIG trouble. and funny how those that can't be trusted ASSUME that no one else can be either.....

[SCRUBS]

I am opposed because basically this is another new tax/fee on people wanting to become hunters or shooters. A few years from now they will raise this tax as that is how taxes work. But, if hunters want this tax/fee then I can't see worrying about it.

Are we going to ask for a new tax on ammo too? 

 

[Bob33]

A $20 registration fee is alresdy charged to every student taking the online course. It is collected at time of online registration, just as this bill would do for traditional classes.

I'm curious to know why no one has complained about that existing policy?

[Elkaholic daWg]

 Maybe because no one has to volunteer to give it? Done by a machine? Can it give the "hands on" part? No, but an instructor basically volunteers to do that right?