why b 9 mm?

[cwuwildcat]

I have both, 9mm and 45.  Anytime someone argues that the 9mm just isn't powerful enough, or have enough knockdown power, or is weak, or doesn't have stopping power, I give them this offer.  "Stand twenty yards in front of me and let me fire one round at you.  If you can walk back to me,  you can take my 45."  Still haven't been taken up on that offer. It kind of puts things into perspective. 

I can shoot a 45 fine, my wife can't.  I've got a 9mm by the bed in case she needs something.

[hillbilli]

another caliber debate.. first of all- have a gun, and ammo. 2nd- be able to hit with it. (would you rather your backup be a guy with a 9mm who is good, or a guy with a .45 who is mediocre or poor? ) 3rd- have good ammo, a 9 with decent hollowpoints will do more damage than .45 ball. (there is an overlap between bullet diameters of expanded 9's, .40, and .45's-with the larger calibers of course bigger most of the time) .40 splits the difference between the two in bullet size and mag capacity, with the same velocity as the 9 -thus it's acceptance with LE. lastly i'll say that 9mm/.38+p is the lowest in power I will accept for a regular carry. Pistols are not great at stopping folks, just about any service pistol caliber has had dramatic failure cases, research police shooting online if you doubt me. Anyone worth shooting once is worth shooting twice, and if you shoot 2,3, or 4 rounds-whatever your natural reaction is-to the body, and he doesnt stop- then you need to assume he has a vest/ is drunk/ is on meth/all of the above- and put one between the running lights. But thats just my opinion, nobody listens to me.

[runamuk]

feel free to come let me practice shooting my 9mm into your center mass...for that matter I would say the same for my 22...so all those 9 haters to the front of the line lets see how non lethal that round is?  what you all are tough behind the computer but not willing to play human test dummy...thought it was weak and non lethal whatcha scared of...bunch of chickens...brok brok...brok....

[demontang]

Anyone have a good reason why most swat, fbi hostage, and speacial forces use a 45 then?

[snowpack]

Like the MP5 and the Uzi prior to that?

[Alchase]

Anyone have a good reason why most swat, fbi hostage, and speacial forces use a 45 then?

Most don't

[Alchase]

FBI standard issue Glock 22

Navy SEALS Sig 226 or Sig 228 (standard issue)

[6x6in6]

FBI standard issue Glock 22

Navy SEALS Sig 226 or Sig 228 (standard issue)

And another in the "most" category....
WSP swat team standard issue is the S&W M&P .40

[ICEMAN]

Anyone have a good reason why most swat, fbi hostage, and speacial forces use a 45 then?

They have small wee wee's ?

[turkeyfeather]

Anyone have a good reason why most swat, fbi hostage, and speacial forces use a 45 then?

If your going to make up facts to prove a point make sure it's not one that can be so easily debunked. 9mm will take down anything a .45 will.

[splitshot]

  have we arrived at my original question as to why the 9 mm shells are the first to sell out and the hardest to keep stocked on shelves of gunshops, i dunno.  it is fun reading all of the baloney and ideas you guys have.  i will say this,  i wont have a 45 cuz the shells are too much and the guys who have stockpiled them want way too much for them, hate that.  also they think the 45 guns have gold in them.  okay i am out and someone else can bloviate.   mike w

[turkeyfeather]

The 9mm rounds are hard to find cause that is the most popular handgun cartridge in the US. But if you keep looking you will find some. I got very lucky and scored 1000 rnds recently. Add that to the 600 I already had and I think I am good for awhile.

[Jburke]

The 9mm rounds are hard to find cause that is the most popular handgun cartridge in the US. But if you keep looking you will find some. I got very lucky and scored 1000 rnds recently. Add that to the 600 I already had and I think I am good for awhile.

Yep.  Popular calibers sell the fastest. 

[Fisherdave10]

Anyone have a good reason why most swat, fbi hostage, and special forces use a 45 then?

They have small wee wee's ?

Most L.E. in this country use .40S&W.
Most elite military units still use 9mm.

[turkeyfeather]

Anyone have a good reason why most swat, fbi hostage, and special forces use a 45 then?

uy them

They have small wee wee's ?

Most L.E. in this country use .40S&W.
Most elite military units still use 9mm.

According to my good friend (who's in LE) most PD's issue 9mm and that officers that use .40's buy their own.