Wdfw still don't care or what?

[3nails]

i am with you i think they should put antler restriction on all blacktail, it should be atleast 2pt min in all units and 3pt min in others, the only ones who should be able to shoot spikes and doe are the youth and seniors and disabled hunters. 

I could agree to this in a unit where deer are struggling as a temporary fix. No way in areas where they are doing fine. I'll match my big blacktails up against almost anyone on this site but I'd like to reserve the option of shooting a spike on the last day if I so choose.

Your missing the point of it! If this was emplamented, give it a few years and your tag would more than likely be notched on a nice 3point before the last day!

It is that way now. That's why I may support it unit specific. No need in my unit.

[Odell]

i am with you i think they should put antler restriction on all blacktail, it should be atleast 2pt min in all units and 3pt min in others, the only ones who should be able to shoot spikes and doe are the youth and seniors and disabled hunters. 

Agreed Jackmaster

-I completly agree!! Ive always sayed spikes and 2points are for women and children!

Mostly agree except not all 2points are created equal. I've seen a few forkies I would love to let the air out of.

[headshot5]

Mostly agree except not all 2points are created equal. I've seen a few forkies I would love to let the air out of.

 

[jackmaster]

Mostly agree except not all 2points are created equal. I've seen a few forkies I would love to let the air out of.

 

the mashel unit went to 2pt min areas when i was 12, well the numbers were good in there but they are horrible now and i am talking elbe hills, i wish they would close it down for a couple years and do a major over haul on the cat problem and the poaching, i also wish they would switch the vail tree farm to permit only, if it was done right it could be world class blacktail huntn in there, all the guys that hunt it every year can agree that the numbers are terrible in there compared to years past, or atleast make it a 2 min except for youth, disabled and seniors

[bullcanyon]

From what I've seen around here the decline started in 96 when wdfw stabbed us in the back and let the hound hunting get taken away.  That would be the #1 best thing they could do for the deer, but they won't.  So at least do something that benefits the herds.

[Old Man Yager]

Here's my theory...... I think when Bill Clinton (!@$%&&%^# Democrat) and his gang of tree huggers almost eliminated the timber harvest in National forests in the early 90's, it had a ripple effect on hunting and game availability. I think a good number of hunters that used to go farther away to hunt are staying more local and trying to hunt areas that still actively log. I used to hunt the Randle area and there were deer running all over the damn place, but it just kept going downhill over the years. So, now as a result local areas are over hunted and not as many animals available. Anybody else think this is part of the problem??

[Bigshooter]

Here's my theory...... I think when Bill Clinton (!@$%&&%^# Democrat) and his gang of tree huggers almost eliminated the timber harvest in National forests in the early 90's, it had a ripple effect on hunting and game availability. I think a good number of hunters that used to go farther away to hunt are staying more local and trying to hunt areas that still actively log. I used to hunt the Randle area and there were deer running all over the damn place, but it just kept going downhill over the years. So, now as a result local areas are over hunted and not as many animals available. Anybody else think this is part of the problem??

I think the lack of logging combined with no hound hunting for cats is the problem.  And going to antler restrictions will do absolutely nothing to improve herd numbers.

[Bookworm007]

Just out of curiosity how many of you have written letters to WDFW expressing your concerns for the herds in your area? I know that in an ideal world WDFW should be keeping a close eye on every single unit, but maybe they need to hear from the hunters about the conditions they are seeing.   

[bobcat]

There is a lot less prime deer habitat due to less logging, and NO fires. This does put more hunting pressure on the areas that do still have good habitat and relatively high numbers of deer. This is why the state really needs to go to permit only deer hunting. The hunting pressure needs to be distributed so that the harvest isn't too high or too low in each unit. Managing hunters is really the only tool the WDFW has, since they have no way of managing or improving wildlife habitat on land which the state does not own.

[Curly]

Coyotes, bears, bobcat, cougars, and poachers are all a problem.

[SkookumHntr]

Here's my theory...... I think when Bill Clinton (!@$%&&%^# Democrat) and his gang of tree huggers almost eliminated the timber harvest in National forests in the early 90's, it had a ripple effect on hunting and game availability. I think a good number of hunters that used to go farther away to hunt are staying more local and trying to hunt areas that still actively log. I used to hunt the Randle area and there were deer running all over the damn place, but it just kept going downhill over the years. So, now as a result local areas are over hunted and not as many animals available. Anybody else think this is part of the problem??

I think the lack of logging combined with no hound hunting for cats is the problem.  And going to antler restrictions will do absolutely nothing to improve herd numbers.

So not taking out a few hundred spikes and 2points every year wont do nothing for the deer numbers say in 667?? Come on bud your smarter then that..

[Bigshooter]

Here's my theory...... I think when Bill Clinton (!@$%&&%^# Democrat) and his gang of tree huggers almost eliminated the timber harvest in National forests in the early 90's, it had a ripple effect on hunting and game availability. I think a good number of hunters that used to go farther away to hunt are staying more local and trying to hunt areas that still actively log. I used to hunt the Randle area and there were deer running all over the damn place, but it just kept going downhill over the years. So, now as a result local areas are over hunted and not as many animals available. Anybody else think this is part of the problem??

I think the lack of logging combined with no hound hunting for cats is the problem.  And going to antler restrictions will do absolutely nothing to improve herd numbers.

So not taking out a few hundred spikes and 2points every year wont do nothing for the deer numbers say in 667?? Come on bud your smarter then that..

And how many more does do you have?  You have to have more does to make the herd bigger.  Even the dumbest biologist will tell you that.

[headshot5]

Coyotes, bears, bobcat, cougars, and poachers are all a problem.

Absolutely!  Predators need to be reduced. 

[SkookumHntr]

And the dumbest biologest will tell you it takes Bucks to make does!

[Bigshooter]

And the dumbest biologest will tell you it takes Bucks to make does!

And even this dumbing knows that one buck can breed a lot of does.