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Gunsmith or woodworker??
« on: June 27, 2013, 10:02:49 AM »
I have a custom made .257 Roberts my grandpa made. I was out shooting before the season almost 4 years ago and noticed that the stock was cracked on it! I have been hunting now for three years without it missed deer with my dads rifle I just don't have any confidence in any gun! Does anyone know a gunsmith or I have heard workers are good people to contact also. Anything helps the season is coming quick and I don't want to go another year without my gun.

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 10:24:16 AM »
I'd go wood worker route.  Where is the crack?  Photos?

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2013, 10:29:36 AM »
It's not hard to fix yourself.  Use wood glue and brass or stainless pins.  People have also used epoxy and pins,  I use JB weld and stainless pins, 1/32 in diameter threaded.

Don't want to do it yourself then a gunsmith would be the right person to go to.

You can also obtain a new stock for the season while that one you have is being fixed.  You can probably obtain one for about $100 from  http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/   repairs may cost you that much
« Last Edit: June 27, 2013, 10:34:57 AM by 12Gauge »
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2013, 10:31:57 AM »
I'm sitting work right now I will take some pictures when I get home. It is cracked along the top of the stock that you place your shoulder on from the bolt back towards where my face sits I will post pics in a while. Thank you

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2013, 10:32:38 AM »
This guy does some amazing work and from what I have heard his turn around time is great.
http://www.thestockdr.com/

post a picture of the crack. You would be shocked at what superglue or a hidden staple can do. I have saved a couple myself that way.
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2013, 10:33:49 AM »
Do you have a company name or a name of a good gunsmith?

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2013, 10:36:21 AM »
Okay thank you

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2013, 10:39:40 AM »
Ed La Pour out of Bremerton, WA.

http://edlapourgunsmithing.com/

He is not cheap or even in the middle,  but you will be satisfied with his work.  He is more than good.
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 10:40:30 AM »
I've doctored up a couple shotguns that had a small crack where the butt stock mates into the back of the receiver.  I opened up the crack with a small V-shaped wood chisel.  Filled this void with fiberglass cloth soaked with epoxy.  Then I took a narrow strip of fiberglass cloth coated in epoxy and wrapped completely around narrow end of the stock. 
After it hardened up I sanded it smooth. 

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 10:42:11 AM »
What make gun is yours
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 10:47:30 AM »
What make gun is yours

12 gauge- not sure if that's directed at me.  My repairs were done on a couple 12 gauge shotguns.  One Beretta 302A the other a Remington Sportsmans 12.

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 10:54:27 AM »
The make of the actual gun is a Remington. The stock and everything all completely custom made. I have thought about going with a composite stick cause this gun is a tank and I'm am spent by the end of the trip from carrying a tree along with me.

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 11:08:01 AM »
Since its a remington you can likely find an aftermarket stock. You could pick out a cheep one while the wood is being fixed, or custom one to replace it.  :twocents:
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2013, 11:10:01 AM »
Should I have a gunsmith take it apart and put the new one one while the wood is being repaired or is it something pretty easy to do?

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2013, 03:44:38 PM »
You can switch stocks yourself and most of the stocks should be drop in. Look in the marketplace here and also check out Longrangehunting.com. You should be able to get a 5r takeoff for well under a hundred.

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2013, 03:53:50 PM »
If you can operate a screw driver, you can change the stock on a rifle. Google for your model, (not just the brand).  If you want the stock glass/pillar bedded, have a gunsmith do it if you're not comfortable with that task.
 
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2013, 08:32:18 PM »
If you do it yourself, the best glue out there, IMO is gorilla glue.  If you can open it up enough to push or blow the glue through, it works great.  It also fills small gaps if there were splinters missing.

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2013, 07:42:08 AM »
You can do a lot with Elmer’s wood glue and some rubber bands.  Older wood trends to dry out and shrink causing cranks.  A good oiling will return full shape to the fibers and close the crack.  Force glue into the crack, clamp, oil, when the glue dries wax the wood.


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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2013, 08:22:02 AM »
Thank you guys a lot cp my crack goes along the top of my stock coming from the receiver back towards my face my thing is I'm kinda scared to shoot it I don't really want the thing coming apart on me after I shoot it

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2013, 08:40:33 AM »
What model of Remington is it?  I'm assuming 700 BDL.  (ADL?)  Long or short action? Bull barrel or standard contour? (just tell us the cartridge you're shooting) I bet someone on here might even have one to sell ya.
 
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2013, 02:30:09 PM »
You can do a lot with Elmer’s wood glue and some rubber bands.  Older wood trends to dry out and shrink causing cranks.  A good oiling will return full shape to the fibers and close the crack.  Force glue into the crack, clamp, oil, when the glue dries wax the wood.

Elmers wood glue is not waterproof.  If you're going to glue it, use a waterproof glue.

JKOZIOL85 sounds like the same stress cracking that I referred to earlier.  A little fiberglass cloth and epoxy will fix that right up and a little sanding will blend it in.  I'll take some pics of my repairs and post them later.  If it's strong enough to handle turkey loads in a 12 gauge, I wouldn't have any worries pulling the trigger on a .243!

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2013, 09:08:49 AM »
My pops and I are actually going to work on it today I think we are going to go the apoxy and fiber glass route. Just for the year then when rifle season is over take it in and have the stock replaced its a completely custom gun my dad said it shoots Remington shells and it's a long action I thought just the stock was custom apparently not. It's i hear gonna cost a pretty penny to have a stock repaired

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2013, 10:13:20 AM »
This is the repair on the beretta 302A 12 gauge.  This was a severe crack.  The discolored wedge is where I removed wood with a chisel and filled  with fiberglass cloth soaked in epoxy.  The slightly darker band around the neck of the stock is a layer of fiberglass wrapped completely around the neck then sanded smooth. 

Fiberglass cloth soaked with epoxy becomes transparent.  There was no other refinishing done to the stock. 

I shot this gun heavily for a couple seasons after this repair.  It has since been retired due to the action being worn out.  It started opening up during firing and left powder burns on my left forearm.  It is a future Seattle buyback prospect.

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2013, 10:19:51 AM »
Lighting shows the "band" better on this photo

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2013, 10:37:15 PM »
I didn't get around to working on it today I'm growing more and more excited for hunting season starting to pull the gun out and work on it

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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2013, 04:52:19 PM »
what the OP explained sounds like a crack behind the rear tang. Take the barrel action out of the stock and open up the rear tang area, it's to tight. Re-bed it with some epoxy, liquid steel works well. The crack should be a hairline when you remove the barreled action. Sand the area behind the rear tang, just lightly. Get some finish and 400 grit wet dry sand paper. Re-finish it by getting some finish on the paper and sanding in a circular motion until the crack is well filled. Relieving the rear tang area will take the pressure off the crack. using the wet dry paper to put on the finish will create a slurry on the sanding dust and force it into the stock sealing the crack.
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Re: Gunsmith or woodworker??
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