Does anyone hunt deer with a assualt rifle?

[JoeE]

I will give you my  .  Why get upset if someone calls it an assault rifle.  I think caving in and worrying about names of guns plays into the anti's hands.  You are damn right my AR is ready for assault if I need it.  It is the point of the gun.

It's very simple. The term assault rifle is used to convince people unfamiliar with firearms that they're inherently bad firearms; that there's something about them that makes society less safe than "regular guns". If you ask most people unfamiliar with firearms what an assault rifle is, many will reply that it's a machine gun. The rhetoric surrounding the issue is very important to the eventual result of attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights. If we don't take care to be accurate about our speak on this, we proliferate the misinformation.

I understand that within this forum, the people know the difference. But that's not true elsewhere. If we can't help each other speak accurately about MSRs, then we can't expect those who are unfamiliar to learn the distinctions either.

This is getting ridiculous. "Speak accurately about MSR's". The AR platform is still being fielded by several military's and police agencies WORLD WIDE as a weapon of war. So speaking accurately about them would be just that, these weapons are for defense (or offense depending), if you use yours for "modern sporting" that's all good. But that's not the most common use for those guns so your description is not "speaking accurately". And like I already said, I don't see how it could possible to hurt to say you hunt or competition shoot with your assault/military/scary/zombie slaying gun when all the antis are saying that these guns aren't used for any of that.

People need to relax. Five pages of this.

[bobcat]

Well said JoeE and curlewkiller.

I would have to agree with both of you.   

[pianoman9701]

I will give you my  .  Why get upset if someone calls it an assault rifle.  I think caving in and worrying about names of guns plays into the anti's hands.  You are damn right my AR is ready for assault if I need it.  It is the point of the gun.

It's very simple. The term assault rifle is used to convince people unfamiliar with firearms that they're inherently bad firearms; that there's something about them that makes society less safe than "regular guns". If you ask most people unfamiliar with firearms what an assault rifle is, many will reply that it's a machine gun. The rhetoric surrounding the issue is very important to the eventual result of attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights. If we don't take care to be accurate about our speak on this, we proliferate the misinformation.

I understand that within this forum, the people know the difference. But that's not true elsewhere. If we can't help each other speak accurately about MSRs, then we can't expect those who are unfamiliar to learn the distinctions either.

This is getting ridiculous. "Speak accurately about MSR's". The AR platform is still being fielded by several military's and police agencies WORLD WIDE as a weapon of war. So speaking accurately about them would be just that, these weapons are for defense (or offense depending), if you use yours for "modern sporting" that's all good. But that's not the most common use for those guns so your description is not "speaking accurately". And like I already said, I don't see how it could possible to hurt to say you hunt or competition shoot with your assault/military/scary/zombie slaying gun when all the antis are saying that these guns aren't used for any of that.

People need to relax. Five pages of this.

Sorry, I respectfully disagree about both points - the uses of MSRs and the use of the term assault weapon. Many people use them for sporting purposes. My brother hunts with his mini 14. His best buddy hunts with his AR-15 .308. And, they're not assault rifles. They're MSRs. They both use handguns for defense, not the MSRs, although the MSR is a great self-defense platform. The point I'm making isn't about whether you and I agree what they're used for. It's about what the majority of the population thinks they are. I have no desire to argue with you about what we say between us gun owners. However, I do think it's important that we make the issue clear for non-gun owners. The antis certainly want it as unclear as possible so the non-gun owners go their way. It's only through misinformation that the antis win this fight.

As an example, my mother is pretty liberal. She was all for an assault weapons ban. I asked her what an assault weapon is and she told me that it was a machine gun (in so many words). When I explained to her that assault weapons are a military rifle and that automatic weapons are already illegal for public use, she changed her mind. It took a while and a lot of Googling, but the fact remains that people are swayed just by the name without knowing what it means. Words mean things and it's important that we use the correct words if we're to keep our rights.

[Fl0und3rz]

Well said Pman.  I hope to deer hunt with my 6.5 grendel AR soon, when I can find brass and components at non-insane prices to work up a load.  Until then, it will be the old-school bolt action "sniper rifle." 

Another downside of hunting with the AR platform is that there are a lot of angles and protrusions that can get caught up in heavy brush. For that type of hunting it's hard to beat an old lever gun or bolt action with iron sights.   AR's can also tend toward the heavy side unless you steer clear of all the chotchkies and stick with things like fixed stocks and free float tubes or traditional handguards. But they are a better SD/HD platform than a bolt action, for sure.

[runamuk]

Words have power why do you think language is one of the first things to be taken from a group that another group wants to control or assimilate?  We can use words to help or hurt our cause, it is still America for the moment so people are free to use whatever words they wish.

And yes even I was willing to ban assault rifles I saw no reason for any civilian to need or own a machine gun of course now I want a tommy gun cuz they look like fun to use for hunting cardboard and my history loving antique things admiring side kicks in ....but black machine guns meh tough sales pitch even to 2nd amendment supporting liberal leaning firearm owners.

ask a couple members on here I was avidly never going to own one they are ugly who needs one....yeah yeah guys keep laughing bunch of darn ar pushers around this place, was converted the first time I got to shoot one....

[sticky]

Not me. But I have no problem with those that do.

[jaymark6655]

I have to admit before I opened the thread I though someone was going to be asking about hunting with a rifle capable of 3 round burst or full automatic fire.  I don't think they should be called assault rifles, but I think Modern Sporting Rifle isn't that great either since anything that doesn't have a wood stock or some other advancement on a standard trigger, etc could be considered "modren".  I use AR, but really that is wrong too if I am not refering specifically to an Armlite weapon.

Any semi-auto modular weapon system is awesome for hunting.  I like the AR style because they are like legos, you can build one to fit anything you could possible want from a rifle, and have several uppers in a variety of calibers rather than several rifles.  You can even go up to .50 BMG if you dont mind it being single shot.  Just decide what you want performance wise and then pick a caliber that matches what you want and is a avaible in that kind of platform. .450 and .458 are nice for deer and elk, but plan on being close.  .30AR (if its being made again) and .30OSSM are some of the longer range calibers available.   Or go with an AR10 style rifle that can fire stuff like the .308WIN

On a sarcastic note:
Nothing like going full auto on a deer.  I prefer the M2FLEX or MK19, but in those states where full auto is illegal for hunting go for the M72 LAW.  It single shot and says I mean business to a deer.  Cleaning is easy, just pick up the scraps.

[Colville]

I assault deer with a hunting rifle.

[BULLBLASTER]

I always thought a 6mm-223 would be a cool little deer  gun in an ar. Just don't have the need right now... my m4 in 556 is loads of fun tho.

[xXLojackXx]

I love to assault paper, steel, and animals with my rifles. Bolt actions and semi autos alike. An they do a good job at that. I suppose they are assault rifles.

[bear hunter]

LOL A lot of rifles from the military are use and hunted with like the 30-40 krag,moslin's Spring 1903's,Enfields,Spring m1a and so on. A lot of people modified military weapon's for hunting. If you like to hunt with assault weapon so be it. Who are we to judge. 

[huntnnw]

think Ill hunt elk this year with a SKS and a cheap scope and take shots out to 500 yards

[bear hunter]

think Ill hunt elk this year with a SKS and a cheap scope and take shots out to 500 yards

    Elk down     

[huntnnw]

rat a tat tat

[xXLojackXx]

Do you think my Glock 20 Assault Pistol would be a good side arm incase I have to assault the *censored* out of a bear this fall??