Using a "Butt Out", do you need to split pelvis? Skinning Question

[Bullkllr]

Grew up splitting the pelvis every time.

Tried it other ways, and I do think I can do a cleaner job with a split pelvis than without.

[Broken Arrow]

No idea...sorry. I go gutless.

[sakoshooter]

A Butt Out was the top present in our Christmas white elephant last year. I think I hurt myself laughing so hard.

[sirfunkeybut]

I've tried one once and it broke, like everyone else said, skinny knife around the hole works great.

[villageidiot]

Once somebody shows you how easy it is to split the pelvis you'll do it every time.  I've used my swiss army knife to gut a deer several times and it will split the pelvis.  The pelvis is not a solid bone, it is only connected by grissel and all you gotta do is find the high point pointing right at you and the skinny layer of grissel is right in the middle of that.  Once you get your knife right in the center of that you can work it in and dismember the two halves of the pelvis.  Once it's opened up it's way easier to pull out the bung hole without getting gut juices and poop all over everything.  Hogs, cows and deer are all the same although, I hadn't been successful splitting a big cow with my swiss army knife.  Butcher hogs are easy and deer are a snap once you find the right spot.  I had a friend that claimed to gut hundreds of deer and I watched him gut a hog.  He cut all the guts out fine then went up to the pelvis and whacked the bunghole off and left it in the hog right below the pelvis on the gutt side leaving about 8 linches of nasty drippey bunghole leaking all over.  He was offended when I corrected him politely but next time he did it right.  I've shown many a know it all hunters how to split the pelvis.   Take a shot, it's easy.

[Bullkllr]

 
and, I really like getting my meat out as clean as possible and in as big a pieces as possible (deer whole, elk quartered, is ideal). Certainly a place for gutless or boning, but if I can I like to get it to a location where I have more control over the conditions before slicing and dicing unless I have to.

[steen]

We never take the pooper out till we get to camp and skin the deer or if we hunt near home we wait till we get the deer home.

[Ridgeratt]

Why not just get a few zip ties and throw a loop in it and then pull it through?
Used to carry some box string like the stuff used in stores.   
All this new fangled stuff to carry.

If you don't have your Cell phone for a Youtube or your go-pro so you can video it just what to do?

[JJB11B]

Save your money, you dont need it, dont need to split the pelvis either....gutting is really not that difficult to do.

it takes 2-4 minutes tops with only a knife to dress a deer. No need to split the pelvis either. I like my fishing filet knife or my havalon for gutting.

YOU'RE FAST and I am slow. I remember Pathfinder101 pushing me out of the way becuase I was taking to long to gut a deer back in 2007

[Sitka_Blacktail]

cowboy, just run a knife between the pooper and the pelvis a few times, then pull the pooper into the cavity. Works fine.

I pull it the opposite way myself. Don't want the pooper touching any part of the inside. Same with the pee bag. I squeeze it to drain it making sure the drain hose is pointed where it won't get on the meat or hide, then pull it out with the bung hole. If I have a long or potentially dirty drag, I wait til I get the animal out and hung up to skin before I deal with that. I make a very small belly slit to get the guts out, just big enough to get both hands in. Then I reach in very carefully with my knife hand and cut the diaphragm away from the body cavity. Once I roll the guts out I reach in and cut the lungs loose. I don't do any throat cutting until I'm skinning the animal and pull the esophagus out then too. The less you expose, the cleaner your meat will be in the end.

[Mike450r]

Deer poop doesn't do squat to the meat.  Pee ain't real good for it and gut juice can sour it but a few nuggets bouncing around the cavity don't do nothing.   Recycled plant material is all it is.

[RadSav]

Never used a butt out and don't even split the pelvis. Just get in there and get it done.

My way of thinking too.  However, our WY guide was given a Butt Out a few years ago as a gag gift.  Everyone thought it was funny until he used it one day.  Now every one of his guides is required to carry one...And use it!!!  Only ever seen it used on antelope, however it works slicker than heck. I still don't think I will be buying one any time soon myself.  I tend to be stubborn.  Or so I've been told.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Deer poop doesn't do squat to the meat.  Pee ain't real good for it and gut juice can sour it but a few nuggets bouncing around the cavity don't do nothing.   Recycled plant material is all it is.

You obviously don't know anything about e-coli.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/8/5/01-0373_article.htm

[Bob33]

Deer poop doesn't do squat to the meat.  Pee ain't real good for it and gut juice can sour it but a few nuggets bouncing around the cavity don't do nothing.   Recycled plant material is all it is.

You obviously don't know anything about e-coli.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/8/5/01-0373_article.htm

Very low risk, and extremely low when proper precautions are taken.

"Although several reports document the presence of O157 in deer (4–6), only one report (4) has shown evidence of an O157 infection from eating venison."

"The abdominal gunshot wound increased the likelihood that intestinal contents initially contaminated the deer carcass. In addition, the extended time it took the deer to die, fecal contamination of the abdominal cavity, the warm day and mild evening temperatures, and the 2-day interval between deer kill and processing likely supported the dissemination and growth of O157 throughout the carcass. Lastly, a large quantity of undercooked venison tenderloin was eaten."

[JJB11B]

Deer poop doesn't do squat to the meat.  Pee ain't real good for it and gut juice can sour it but a few nuggets bouncing around the cavity don't do nothing.   Recycled plant material is all it is.

You obviously don't know anything about e-coli.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/8/5/01-0373_article.htm

Very low risk, and extremely low when proper precautions are taken.

"Although several reports document the presence of O157 in deer (4–6), only one report (4) has shown evidence of an O157 infection from eating venison."

"The abdominal gunshot wound increased the likelihood that intestinal contents initially contaminated the deer carcass. In addition, the extended time it took the deer to die, fecal contamination of the abdominal cavity, the warm day and mild evening temperatures, and the 2-day interval between deer kill and processing likely supported the dissemination and growth of O157 throughout the carcass. Lastly, a large quantity of undercooked venison tenderloin was eaten."

There you go with all that science and logic again!!