CURRENTLY WDFW FEDERAL AGENTS SHOOTING 15 bulls in Skagit River Unit!!!!

[bearpaw]

I would like to hear the reasoning when there are thousands of public hunters and even landowners who want to fill an elk tag?

[ghosthunter]

"I just talked with the wardens ...it is all true ...he ask me how I heard about it"

To me that's one of the most troubling aspects of this: why WDFW believes keeping it a secret is wise. In this world of spying, satellite imagery, blogs, and so forth - nothing is secret. By trying to hide it, they are sending a message that transparency is not a virture in their operations.

One more black eye for WDFW.

This is a highly visible herd. There are a lot of folks who do not want them killed.
I suspect darkness provided a way to keep what was happening out of the eye of the general public who might not like seeing it.

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Very interesting?? 

[sled]

  I Just Sent The Director An Email.

[Little Dave]

I suppose these USDA agents were off work during the government shutdown Oct 1 - 17.  If so, they probably had to do a rushed job to set up and finish before the rifle elk season.  We might not have noticed otherwise (which seems to have been the objective by the warden's inquiry).  A guess.

[pianoman9701]

I just talked with the wardens ...it is all true ...he ask me how I heard about it ...I told him I hear everything  One thing I will clarify ...it is 15 elk total ...not all bulls ....I am lost for words when I can not put one in my freezer 

BH, can you give the name of the warden? I'm going to my state senator with this.

[BOWHUNTER45]

I just talked with the wardens ...it is all true ...he ask me how I heard about it ...I told him I hear everything  One thing I will clarify ...it is 15 elk total ...not all bulls ....I am lost for words when I can not put one in my freezer 

BH, can you give the name of the warden? I'm going to my state senator with this.

I am not getting involved with the wardens again ....they were here to see my wifes deer ....So I confronted them about it ...like I said it was to be a little secret but that did not last long ....They told me that the landowner was raising so much hell over the damage to his property that the feds stepped in ....Nothing to do with WDFW ....You know me by now ...I will defend what I believe in and I am peeeeeeeesed over this crap ....we need to write something because the way I see it there is room for elk to be hunted on that side of the river ...more timber ..out of sight ...out of mind ....they did not say much other than it is true and it was the feds ....but we need to get on this ...I am calling BS !!!!!!

[Hunting Cowboy]

 

I would like to hear the reasoning when there are thousands of public hunters and even landowners who want to fill an elk tag?

[BOWHUNTER45]

THATS THE POINT !!!! How many people would 15 fat than heck elk feed in this valley ... So I guess the Indians get them or they take them back to DC and feed Obama some !!

[pianoman9701]

I've written my state senator, Don Benton. I urge everyone on this forum to do so, as well. I'll be starting another thread.

[Ccortez]

THATS THE POINT !!!! How many people would 15 fat than heck elk feed in this valley ... So I guess the Indians get them or they take them back to DC and feed Obama some !!

They are going to tribes and food banks...

[Bob33]

“Brandon Griffith with the WDFW (elk conflict specialist) is secretly bringing in Federal Agents.”

“Nothing to do with WDFW.”

“Shooters from the USDA are doing it.”

“This is not the work of the USDA.”

And one wonders why there is skepticism over internet posts like this.

[bigtex]

“Brandon Griffith with the WDFW (elk conflict specialist) is secretly bringing in Federal Agents.”

“Nothing to do with WDFW.”

“Shooters from the USDA are doing it.”

“This is not the work of the USDA.”

And one wonders why there is skepticism over internet posts like this.

You forgot "WDFW FEDERAL AGENTS"

When did WDFW start working as feds?

[TheHunt]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

The USDA?  This is comical on so many different levels!

No it's not.  The USDA oversees the USFS and a detachment known as Wildlife Services.  Wildlife Services does lots of hunting and trapping of 'problem animals'.  This includes deer, coyotes, used to include wolves, etc.  They use lots of aerial gunning and even poison in some states.  I think Wildlife Services takes out more coyotes than all of hunter combined.  They like to hire former military/LEO snipers for some of their positions.

It's actually called USDA APHIS (United States Department of Agriculture Animal Plant and Health Inspection Service) At one time they were a part of the USFWS but were transfered to USDA.
I know guys that work there and do nothing but shoot stuff all year long. They don't have to follow state laws so they can do a lot of stuff no one else can do.

I know many of those people as well.  I know of one person who shot an entire case of shells at pigeons which nest on sea vessels.   He did not want to go waterfowl hunting because of it.   

[pianoman9701]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

The USDA?  This is comical on so many different levels!

No it's not.  The USDA oversees the USFS and a detachment known as Wildlife Services.  Wildlife Services does lots of hunting and trapping of 'problem animals'.  This includes deer, coyotes, used to include wolves, etc.  They use lots of aerial gunning and even poison in some states.  I think Wildlife Services takes out more coyotes than all of hunter combined.  They like to hire former military/LEO snipers for some of their positions.

It's actually called USDA APHIS (United States Department of Agriculture Animal Plant and Health Inspection Service) At one time they were a part of the USFWS but were transfered to USDA.
I know guys that work there and do nothing but shoot stuff all year long. They don't have to follow state laws so they can do a lot of stuff no one else can do.

I know many of those people as well.  I know of one person who shot an entire case of shells at pigeons which nest on sea vessels.   He did not want to go waterfowl hunting because of it.

I would, though, find it very hard to believe that they did this without the knowledge and approval/cooperation of the DFW.