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Offline GrampasGuns

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CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« on: December 04, 2013, 06:13:02 PM »
Im lookin at them. Does anyone own one? Im looking for some feedback, trying to decide if I want a double trigger, or to fork over a little more money to get a CZ Ringneck with the english stock. Straight grip is a must for me.

I got the new gun bug real bad, Its been about 4 years, and I just got promoted so a new scattergun is in order.

Also gearing up to make the speech when my lady finds out I got another shotgun, she doesn't understand. She thinks I should have to suffer in the uplands with a 8lb gun!
The deer are exactly where you find them, and no where you dont!

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 06:20:29 PM »
I looked seriously at them and then read all kinds of reviews (many sites) that left me with a less than warm feeling.  I guess many folks had issues with them.  It looked like a nice classy gun.  Maybe they worked out the issues--at that time I believe bulk of the problems were with soldering/welding and the ejectors.  I thought it was pretty light and well balanced.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 07:19:34 PM »
I live in Redmond and can't find a single spot that has them so I can't  take a good look at one.
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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 07:24:10 PM »
The ones I found were at a Sportsman's Warehouse in Silverdale.  But that was a few years back.  They had about a dozen of the CZ SxS guns.  Not sure if Wade's would carry them...they seem more tactical these days.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 10:12:40 PM »
I do not know the gun and cannot comment on it. However, it seems like a trip to DJ's in Bothell might be worthwhile.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 11:46:17 PM »
I bought one a couple of years ago for shooting steel out on the salt.  I like straight gripped double trigger sxs but didn't want to take a good gun out and take a chance on ruining it.  The little CZ has been great, it is a non ejector gun so any comments about ejectors are most likely about the O/U's and trigger problems are almost always with single trigger guns.  One big bonus is the barrels are black chrome instead of blued but you cant tell the difference. 

I and vertically challenged so I went with the 26" barrel and wacked an inch off the stock so it handles great for me, if your of standard proportions I'd get the 28" barrel.

Mine has been absolutely reliable and handles everything from the lightest  skeet loads to 3" 1 1/4oz Hevi shot shells without problems.  They come with five choketubes, so your cover for everything from the getgo.  They are stiff to open and take a while to break in.

PM me if you have anymore questions
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 06:35:49 AM »
I live in Redmond and can't find a single spot that has them so I can't  take a good look at one.
what is your budget?

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 07:37:25 AM »
I've seen them at Sportsman's Warehouse and at Cabela's in the past.

For every bad review I've generally seen 3 that were good. For an economy double I don't think you can wrong with CZ. They are not suited for the pounding that a range gun is, but for hunting and rounds of clays you should be alright. I would worry more about a Stoeger, though to be honest I've hunted with one for 5+ years now and never had a problem.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 07:58:37 AM »
I've got the Bobwhite in both 12 and 20 gauge.  The Bobwhite has the English grip and the Ringneck is the one with the pistol grip.   The only issue I've had with the 20 gauge Bobwhite is one of the firing pins is slightly too long and causes barely pierced Winchester primers.   Remington primers are slightly thicker and have no issue.  My guess is Winchester "skinnied" up their primers over the years to save $$ on material.

I've owned a DeHaan Huglu since before 2000 and because of it's reliability and construction had no qualms about buying CZ Bobwhites.    Both shotguns are made at the Huglu factory/consortium and constructed using USA CNC and metal specifications.

Barrels are regulated to shoot to the same center POI and also produce a 50/50 pattern.

Two thumbs up here for Bobwhites.   Getting used to the double trigger is the thing as pulling the same trigger twice doesn't fire two shots.

One more thing, it's light and easy to carry.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 08:12:20 AM »
great advice fellas. I've got around 800-9 on how crazy I get.Been borrowing my grandpas citori for the last few years and I need something I treat like a hunting gun.
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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 08:27:20 AM »
Save some more money and buy a good used Baretta silver hawk or a AYA boxlock. I have a Bill Hanus 20ga AYA  and its the best gun I ever owned.
27in barrels, SG, Dtt and a splinter forend. Fixed chokes that mike out to be light imp cyl and light mod, deadly on quail and chukar over a pointing dog.

Bill W, do you ever shoot that Browning o/u I sold you?  Can't tell you enough how much more I like the AYA than that Browning. Find some quail around your place and I'll show you what a real dog can do. I'll even let you shoot first. 

Bob.

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 09:03:40 AM »
If your on a limited budget and steel shot is in the picture and I think it is coming for everything.  I 'd seriously look to a choke tubed gun over a fixed choke gun unless you can afford multiple sxs's.  Right now you can pick up a new CZ Bobwhite for $650 on the net with free shipping.

You can find lots of used Aya, Sauers, Uggies, even Merkels in your price range but they are all fixed choke guns not rated for steel and soft non-toxics are near $70/bx of 25, you can cut that in half if you reload.
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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 10:00:06 AM »
Point well taken AWS. That steel thing for hunting chukars is a bunch of crap. I'll use lead until I can no longer hunt. No way can you find a good used AyA or Beretta for $750 -900.
I know Bill W and he seems to like his CZ's, probably worth a try for $750

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2013, 10:10:09 AM »
If your on a limited budget and steel shot is in the picture and I think it is coming for everything.  I 'd seriously look to a choke tubed gun over a fixed choke gun unless you can afford multiple sxs's.  Right now you can pick up a new CZ Bobwhite for $650 on the net with free shipping.

You can find lots of used Aya, Sauers, Uggies, even Merkels in your price range but they are all fixed choke guns not rated for steel and soft non-toxics are near $70/bx of 25, you can cut that in half if you reload.

Sorry for being out of the loop, but isn't Hevi-Shot Classic Doubles supposed to help with this problem? I know the stuff is expensive but...

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Re: CZ Bobwhite 20GA?
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2013, 06:37:13 PM »
Save some more money and buy a good used Baretta silver hawk or a AYA boxlock. I have a Bill Hanus 20ga AYA  and its the best gun I ever owned.
27in barrels, SG, Dtt and a splinter forend. Fixed chokes that mike out to be light imp cyl and light mod, deadly on quail and chukar over a pointing dog.

Bill W, do you ever shoot that Browning o/u I sold you?  Can't tell you enough how much more I like the AYA than that Browning. Find some quail around your place and I'll show you what a real dog can do. I'll even let you shoot first. 

Bob.

I shoot them both Bob.  The CZ has 3 inch chambers and take steel for ducks and pheasant release areas.   The Browning has 2 3/4 inch chambers and doesn't have the same payload for steel.  Also I misplaced the choke tubes for the Browning and haven't found where I hid them.

 


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