River anchor system

[92xj]

EZmarine Vs. Orval's EZ Pull Vs.

18'6" war eagle boat, Columbia river all year long, slow & fast flows, deep and shallow. 

[kenzmad]

I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain.

[huntnphool]

I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.

[92xj]

I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.

This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there.  EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that.  The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why.  Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.

[wildmanoutdoors]

I dont know what the Orval cost is. I have the EZ also. Its about 40 bucks. Check with Bob's in Longview. It works great but stays on the line and you have to hold it open to reset. The Orval comes on and off. Which makes it slicker IMO. Easy and faster to reset without pulling 300feet of line thru everytime you move. Definately worth a look in my book.

[92xj]

Longview is a haul for me in the tricities.

The Orval is around the 55 dollar mark.  Worth it for the extra 15 bucks?

[wildmanoutdoors]

I added to my above post. I think so easily! Plus the 40 was from years ago. Its probably 50 now too. Bobs will ship...

[huntnphool]

I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.

This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there.  EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that.  The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why.  Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.

The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.

[wildmanoutdoors]

EZ marine pricing...

http://ezmarine.com/ez_6_price_list_.htm

[92xj]

I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.

This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there.  EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that.  The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why.  Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.

The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.

What is the Leelock puller?  The only thing I can find on their website is the bracket that mounts to the front of the boat and the block that locks the line.  I dont see anything that hangs under a bouy for leelock.

[92xj]

EZ marine pricing...

http://ezmarine.com/ez_6_price_list_.htm

Thanks for that!

[wildmanoutdoors]

Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one. Bottom right pic on leeloks page.

[huntnphool]

I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.

This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there.  EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that.  The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why.  Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.

The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.

What is the Leelock puller?  The only thing I can find on their website is the bracket that mounts to the front of the boat and the block that locks the line.  I dont see anything that hangs under a bouy for leelock.

http://leelockas.com/orval.html

[92xj]

Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.

Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.

Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has?  Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.

[92xj]

I have the EZMarine and find it very easy to use. Drive past it, it pulls up the anchor to the buoy and lift it out of the water.

This is the actions I am wanting but curious about the different devices out there.  EZmarine looks real good, simple and basic, which there is nothing wrong with that.  The Orval's looks like a slicker product but it has more moving parts and springs, which in my eyes is something else to go wrong. Both Im sure are good, but curious as to who holds the upper hand and why.  Also, I cant find a price on the ezmarine in my very short interent searches.

The only thing I don't like about the EZMarine piece is you have to thread your rope through it, making it impossible to remove the buoy from the rope without pulling the entire rope through. I have 350' of rope on my archor so I can fish the deeper holes, this makes it a bit of a pain if I ever want to use the rope without the buoy. I checked into the Leelock puller and it works similarly to the EZMarine piece, but it allows you to remove it and the buoy without pulling the rope all the way through. Only issue for me now is my rope diameter is a little too big for the Leelock piece, so I will need to buy new rope too, if I change to the Leelock piece.

What is the Leelock puller?  The only thing I can find on their website is the bracket that mounts to the front of the boat and the block that locks the line.  I dont see anything that hangs under a bouy for leelock.

http://leelockas.com/orval.html

gotcha, thats the one I was looking at as well. 

[huntnphool]

Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.

Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.

Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has?  Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.

You can likely pick up all the pieces separately cheaper than buying it all together.

[wildmanoutdoors]

Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.

Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.

Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has?  Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.

You can likely pick up all the pieces separately cheaper than buying it all together.

For sure! We got our big bouys from Ballard and shipyards and the like. Most have a slow leak and are easily patched. A quality big bouy can set ya back 100 bucks.

[92xj]

Leelok is selling the Orval! Its not really a different one.

Ok, just making sure. Because all I could find was the orval one on the leelock site.

Have you happen to come across a complete kit with the orval, like ezmarine has?  Anchor, line, lock clasp deal, bouy, etc.

You can likely pick up all the pieces separately cheaper than buying it all together.

thats kind of what I am thinking while doing this research.

I am thinking I am going to need 3/8 x 300 nylon line.  Seems like most places are only offering 3/8 in 150, 200, and one place I saw had 250.   

You guys have a online dealer you would recommend for line?

I will be hitting the local store this weekend to see what they have, but for now, all I have is google.

[wildmanoutdoors]

EZ marine has the 300 foot shots...

[92xj]

Thanks,
Time to start pricing.  So far the ezmarine kit is the cheapest. Since I will have to purchase a bouy and anchor to go along with the line and clasp deal.

Ezmarine med acnhoring set 16-19' boats - 280

3/8 x 300 line - 71
Orvals clasp - 55
bouy - 100
anchor - 90
for a total of - 316
but I get the Orval deal over the ezmarine one. 40 bucks difference isnt that bad I guess.

[wildmanoutdoors]

Dont skimp on the anchor. Get the 32 pound.

[92xj]

you think for an 18 open jon boat style?  It's an 18' war eagle hunting boat.

[huntnphool]

Dont skimp on the anchor. Get the 32 pound.

Mine is a little more than 40# and the buoy holds it up fine too. Better to have a little bit too heavy than not heavy enough.

[wildmanoutdoors]

Dont skimp on the anchor. Get the 32 pound.

Mine is a little more than 40# and the buoy holds it up fine too. Better to have a little bit too heavy than not heavy enough.

Exactly. The one he refered to had the 26 pound anchor. Thats why I told him to get the bigger 32 if he buys the EZ anchor. Big inboard jets are way heavier and could use even more like yours.

I run 20 feet of chain off my 32 cause I like to work out lifting that last 20 feet. Lol Actually I do it so I dont need as much rode when Im in those too close together hoglines.

[fishcrazy]

you might check Home Depot for the rope. I found it much cheaper when I purchased mine.
And I agree go up 1 size on the anchor from what their chart shows. I run a 32# ezmarine anchor and have never need chain. The last thing I want to drag over the side of my boat is chain.

I also have a long rope that is probably 350' and a shorter 150' rope. Depending on how deep I'm fishing.

you might also look into getting an anchor rope bag. I love mine. No more rope mess or tangles.


Kris

[hollymaster]

Use a milk crate, let's the rope dry out. Ditto on the short and long anchor line. I never use the longer one though. 18 foot super vee. The 26 pound anchor and 5 feet of chain works for me even in deep slots below priest. 

[Mfowl]

I've used both the EZMarine and Orval's systems and I prefer the Orval's simply because you can remove it from your anchor line instead of threading your line back through the pulley. Both systems work well but it is worth a little extra money to save yourself the time/hassle while on the water. Just make sure you put it on the right way, roller to the anchor! 

[cohoho]

I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain.

Leelock stinks in my opinion also for their anchor locker system.  I would 100% go with Miller Marine system, easy to pull 40lb anchors with breaking the zip ties or having to reach to the front of the boat on choppy water.  Leelock system the roller is way too small catches the top ring of the anchor the wrong way almost every time....  When pulling the buoy, it will slip off and grab the anchor holder slot.  Still pulls but damage has occurred to the anchor line, so I smoothed out the edges.    I do like the quick release system for the Leelocker for OS fishing, makes it a snap to drop anchor over board...  I will sell you my Leelock system today for $100, they were like $240 new.  I use and like the EZ marine anchor, I have both the 28lb and 40lb.  Just do not tell Robodad I have a lighter anchor, it is fun watching him pull the heavier one....     I use a mesh laundry bag inside of a 5 gallon bucket to easy store and wrap, then pull bag out to dry...

[cohoho]

Buy a second line and a second puller as back up...  I run 250-300ft almost every time I anchor, better be safe than sorry- not shallow water fishing but in mid deeper areas....  Too many time I see guys bobbing like a cork, cause they got barely enough anchor line out to hold them properly...   I forget what the recommendation is for line versus depth, 5 to 1, 7 to 1???  I like having my line out, if only need a shorter distance, rest is in mesh bag zip tied to throw over board to come off hog line or OS sturgeon.  Plus it gives you practice guessing distances you need to drop back, especially important when it comes to jumping in an established Hog Line.....  Normally run a parachute cord from quick release to back of boat, so if I got to hurry, pop the cord and mesh bag with rest of line stays near the buoy and I float down river without that first worry, uhhh, make sure kicker is fired up first!!!!!   

[ICEMAN]

I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain.

.....  Just do not tell Robodad I have a lighter anchor, it is fun watching him pull the heavier one....    

I was wondering why you were laughing so much each time we moved your boat last time out...

[woodywsu]

I run an EZ Marine 16-pound rocking arm style with A-2 bouy and EZ marine puller. I run it with 600' floating rope and I have been able to hold anchor in extremely fast water (right below dam) in boats up to 24' long. I have 7 of these setups and won't buy anythign else. The EZ Marine anchor folds up nicely for storage and is galvanized.

[fishcrazy]

The guys at Lee lock have updated their columbia nest. I have the older model and like cohoho says it is lame. I have looked at their new one at the shows and am thinking about an upgrade. At one time they actually offered to trade me. Maybe I should look into that. I also have their can system and love it for shallow anchoring.

Kris

[magnus100]

I use the Orval's EZ puller. It is really slick. Cuts the time and effort of each set significantly. I also do a lot of 300 foot sets so the detach reattach deal is awesome. My old non-detachable puller is now my backup.

[cohoho]

Recommend also going with a Poly type rope for the first 250ft and then put a floating nylon line on the last 50ft.   Also EZ has the new slide on for pulling anchor, got one, just haven't used it yet...  Seems like it should work as I got it set up for a back up system in the under storage of the boat. 

Hey Kris if you get a trade deal - tell them I have one that I'd be more than happy to get some sort of exchange on it.  Wish they had a can type system for the Columbia river type anchors???  Be sweet and easy to pull once the buoy is up front.

[huntnphool]

Recommend also going with a Poly type rope for the first 250ft and then put a floating nylon line on the last 50ft.   Also EZ has the new slide on for pulling anchor, got one, just haven't used it yet...  Seems like it should work as I got it set up for a back up system in the under storage of the boat. 

Hey Kris if you get a trade deal - tell them I have one that I'd be more than happy to get some sort of exchange on it.  Wish they had a can type system for the Columbia river type anchors???  Be sweet and easy to pull once the buoy is up front.

Hey Mike, last time I was at the show they showed me a system that worked with my big Columbia anchor. It wasn't a can but they pulled it up onto the decking platform just fine.

[cohoho]

Cool thanks Rob, will have to check into it, as seriously - the one I got stinks!

[92xj]

So....
I was given an anchor and bouy. 
Even though I have zero experience in this, for some reason I am thinking my ball is a little small, or my anchor is a little big. 
I will be using this on an 18.5' open floor plan aluminum duck boat.  Not heave what so ever. 
I know the anchor will hold the boat just fine.  Weighed it to 40 pounds.
Will the bouy float the anchor?  The bouy is 14" diameter width wise.  Top to bottom is greater.

[Mfowl]

Tough call! I've seen plenty of boats on the river using buoys that size but I have no  idea what size anchor they are using. Take your set up out to a lake and give it a try in a safer setting than the big C. Also its good to practice deploying/pulling your anchor in a controlled environment before you get out into the current and crowds of the river. If the buoy doesn't work at least you can hand pull the anchor in a lake a bit easier than the river too.

[Cap.Silver]

Try surplus on Marginal way in Seattle south of Transfer station - they usually have ropes and buoys

[cohoho]

My buddy had the multi forks type and didn't like it, it didn't stick like a dual fork type.  He runs a beautiful Willies 24ft Guide boat, once he went to the dual fork - never comes off anchor at all....  I run a dual fork type on a heavy boat and do not come off anchor with it either.. 

[92xj]

My buddy had the multi forks type and didn't like it, it didn't stick like a dual fork type.  He runs a beautiful Willies 24ft Guide boat, once he went to the dual fork - never comes off anchor at all....  I run a dual fork type on a heavy boat and do not come off anchor with it either..

Do you think the buoy  would float that anchor?

I know that anchor would hold the boat just fine. It's a light boat. In desperate times last year I had a 10 foot piece of chair on the end of a rope with no anchor that held me on the big c.  I'm thinking I will just go get a 16 pound dual fork anchor at sportsmans tonight to run under the 14 inch buoy. On 300 feet of 3/8 line.

[robodad]

I have the Leelock system. I have the 40lb anchor. I hate it. Pulling the anchor from more than 20 feet is a royal pain.

.....  Just do not tell Robodad I have a lighter anchor, it is fun watching him pull the heavier one....    

I was wondering why you were laughing so much each time we moved your boat last time out...

Wait………..WHAT !!!!   

[Antlershed]

So....
I was given an anchor and bouy. 
Even though I have zero experience in this, for some reason I am thinking my ball is a little small, or my anchor is a little big. 
I will be using this on an 18.5' open floor plan aluminum duck boat.  Not heave what so ever. 
I know the anchor will hold the boat just fine.  Weighed it to 40 pounds.
Will the bouy float the anchor?  The bouy is 14" diameter width wise.  Top to bottom is greater.

I would be surprised if that buoy could float that anchor. Not to mention, I doubt it would have enough buoyancy to get that anchor off the bottom.

I run a 32lb EZ Marine anchor, EZ marine puller, their largest buoy and their 300' rope (250' + 50' floating tag line). I also run about 5' of chain. Haven't had a problem holding my 22.5' Raptor.

[Fish4Fun]

Check out this anchor puller, this is what I have used on the Columbia for the last 15+ years. Has never failed and is easy to use with the EZ Marine anchor

Ironwood Pacific Anchor Retrieval System
http://www.lfsmarineoutdoor.com/ironwood-pacific-anchor-retrieval-system.html

[wildmanoutdoors]

That buoy would have no problem with a 40 pound anchor.