Fish and Game Considers Wolf Baiting in Northern Idaho

[singleshot12]

It is,but I still think it's about as much as the state can handle. I'm sure the hunter% would double that if we had more space and opportunity

[AspenBud]

It is,but I still think it's about as much as the state can handle. I'm sure the hunter% would double that if we had more space and opportunity

That's a fair point.

[bearpaw]

It is,but I still think it's about as much as the state can handle. I'm sure the hunter% would double that if we had more space and opportunity

That's a fair point.

There are quite a few hunters in WA that go out of state to hunt.

[huntnphool]

I think there are enough hunters for this state,plenty for the wildlife and environment to handle. It's just that most hunters are reclusive by nature and or unfortunately have a defeatist attitude. But we are definitely out numbered 12 to 1 by REI Eco transplants  They don't have a clue about wildlife and the environment. They think they are helping our wild places but in actuality they are hurting them and making them disappear.

The last stat I saw showed we had 188,000 license holding hunters in this state. 188,000!!!

In a state of 7,000,000 we represent maybe 3% of the public. Those are bad odds.

But potentially up to a 6% swing, which is significant.

[wence5]

I just look at all the things Idaho is doing and think,  Washington isn't going to do that.

There won't be no wolf baiting here, no trapping and WDFW isn't going to spend 2 million to have wildlife services kill them.


Nothing,  we have no avenue to kill or manage wolves.

I think you are right. Too many wolfaboo's had complete attention and so much sway with the game commissim, we will be hard pressed to fire a red rider BB gun at a wolf let alone kill any! I hate to say this but I think Washington is dead. 

[TeacherMan]

Best thing that ever happend in AK was arial hunting for wolves 😉 hard to find a wolf in unit 13 up there now. Id be interested in baiting them. I've done it a lot in AK. We used road kill moose that was not salvageable for butcher. Usually hit by train or semi  create a large pile that birds can see and the predators will come. As the snow gets deeper the trails to it become better and better. That's when you pull out the snares, back off 50 plus yards so they are not as shy of your sets and take out the pack 

[TheHunt]

I don't think Washington will do anything until small children, hikers, and peoples pets are taken by wolves.  At that point in time people will get it and something will be done to control them.

[Machias]

I don't think Washington will do anything until small children, hikers, and peoples pets are taken by wolves.  At that point in time people will get it and something will be done to control them.

Won't even happen then, case in point, California and lions.  There have been an increase in attacks, even a person killed and the granola eaters say the same thing over and over.  Oh we are in their territory, shame on us.  It WILL NOT change there.  The Eastside, for the most part, will scream and holler and NOTHING will change.

[WAPatriot]

Best thing that ever happend in AK was arial hunting for wolves 😉 hard to find a wolf in unit 13 up there now. Id be interested in baiting them. I've done it a lot in AK. We used road kill moose that was not salvageable for butcher. Usually hit by train or semi  create a large pile that birds can see and the predators will come. As the snow gets deeper the trails to it become better and better. That's when you pull out the snares, back off 50 plus yards so they are not as shy of your sets and take out the pack 

I just went from six to midnight damn that sounds like fun. Thermo optic night vision scopes on an Ar 10 blasting a pack of wolves.  Call me dr king cause that's my dream.

[Stein]

I don't think Washington will do anything until small children, hikers, and peoples pets are taken by wolves.  At that point in time people will get it and something will be done to control them.

I don't think so.  There are many people in this state that think animals are more important than people.  Idaho is a totally different deal as is Montana.

Lefties sitting in their apartment in Seattle will simply blame the people that get attacked because they encroached in the wildlife's home area.

[Special T]

N Idaho has a fierce independent streak that many in WA used to have... even on the West side of the state. The pan handle has not suffered the Cali-fornication that W WA has. I will also add that Idiots running thier trap is actively confronted vs the passive nature of W WA.

Have I mentioned that The locals finally ran Brad Pitt out of boundary country? Took the of few years but he's gone now...

[Sitka_Blacktail]

With all you wolf worriers busily distracted by what wolves may do in the future, the real problems facing hunting have been gaining force. Number 1, Access. More and more land off limits or very limited to hunters. Number 2 which goes hand in hand with access is money. The cost of gaining access. It's turning into, if not a rich man's game, a pretty well to do man's game. this leads to #3, loss of hunters which also means loss of political power. The less hunters, the more they are marginalized.

Meanwhile, guys get on sites like this and mouth off about taking out wolves and SSS and generally make all hunters look bad to the general public. This marginalizes hunters politically even more.

I won't even go into urban sprawl and habitat issues.

All these things have been chipping away at your ability to hunt. But all you can talk about is how wolves are someday going to ruin hunting. I haven't missed one day of hunting due to wolves. But I have due to all the other factors listed above.

I'd say they have hunters right where they want them and they have a scapegoat to keep them out of their hair while they continue to reduce your ability to hunt.

[bearpaw]

With all you wolf worriers busily distracted by what wolves may do in the future, the real problems facing hunting have been gaining force. Number 1, Access. More and more land off limits or very limited to hunters. Number 2 which goes hand in hand with access is money. The cost of gaining access. It's turning into, if not a rich man's game, a pretty well to do man's game. this leads to #3, loss of hunters which also means loss of political power. The less hunters, the more they are marginalized.

Meanwhile, guys get on sites like this and mouth off about taking out wolves and SSS and generally make all hunters look bad to the general public. This marginalizes hunters politically even more.

I won't even go into urban sprawl and habitat issues.

All these things have been chipping away at your ability to hunt. But all you can talk about is how wolves are someday going to ruin hunting. I haven't missed one day of hunting due to wolves. But I have due to all the other factors listed above.

I'd say they have hunters right where they want them and they have a scapegoat to keep them out of their hair while they continue to reduce your ability to hunt.

Not sure how you missed it, wolves ruined hunting in many Idaho units, western MT and WY 10 years ago. Some agencies have already reacted with seasons and removal efforts, people have had time to reduce wolf numbers in some units and elk are rebounding, other units are still struggling. I would suggest that just because you don't have wolves where you live it doesn't mean there haven't been wolf impacts in many other areas. 

I would also mention that some hunters have been addressing access and other issues you mention. Just because you may not have seen it doesn't mean it hasn't been happening. If you become active in sportman's groups you will learn that a great deal of hunters are working on many of the issues you mention.   

[idahohuntr]

Sitka - don't forget, those who screech loudest on this site about wolves also believe there is a major government conspiracy to poison the human population with chemtrails sprayed by commercial airliners - and the government controls the weather with this "technology".  Im not totally sure I got all the details right...I can only take bat---- crazy in small doses.  

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,176131.msg2332468.html#msg2332468

[wolfbait]

I just look at all the things Idaho is doing and think,  Washington isn't going to do that.

There won't be no wolf baiting here, no trapping and WDFW isn't going to spend 2 million to have wildlife services kill them.


Nothing,  we have no avenue to kill or manage wolves.

Except fire, which just about equals the wolves that kill everything.