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Author Topic: PETITION TO REMOVE WDFW DIRECTOR ANDERSON, CHIEF CROWN & DEPUTY CHIEF CENCI  (Read 261616 times)

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I think that's a decent question...


But, I think that having to listen to some public outcry helps with the untouchableness of some in office.   :twocents:
The public outcry about George Bush brought us Barack Obama.

Good point Bob.
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Thats a good question Sitka. Me personally, and I know Todd is enjoying his retirement but when push comes to shove I hope he or someone just like him jumps in the running, WDFW needs a little old school action if you ask me, we need someone who wants to fight and not run, we need someone who will hold people accountable for their actions, and someone that will stand up for are wildlife of all walks... .not someone thats a yes man or with political asperations...

That's fair enough. Who do you have in mind? This can't be just about getting rid of somebody. It also has to be about who will take their place.
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Only way it changes is through elections. Maybe a petition to make these elected positions.
i like that idea!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Thats a good question Sitka. Me personally, and I know Todd is enjoying his retirement but when push comes to shove I hope he or someone just like him jumps in the running, WDFW needs a little old school action if you ask me, we need someone who wants to fight and not run, we need someone who will hold people accountable for their actions, and someone that will stand up for are wildlife of all walks... .not someone thats a yes man or with political asperations...

That's fair enough. Who do you have in mind? This can't be just about getting rid of somebody. It also has to be about who will take their place.
honestly the only person I have in mind is Todd, he knows what needs to be done and has live d it
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

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Just curious. If this petition somehow worked, who would you replace Anderson with and how would that person make things better? And do you believe this new person could actually get the job? Or are you going to get more of the same or even someone worse.

When you create a void, be sure you now how it's going to be filled.

Not to sound like a smart@#@, but I have no control over that.  I assume the Deputy Director would take over at least on the short-term, but then we will all have to sit back and see what names come up.  At that time we can all voice our opinions on who it should be.

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Only way it changes is through elections. Maybe a petition to make these elected positions.

....which would be an absolute disaster.  How many commissioners do you want selected by non-hunters and/or anti-hunters?
How is that any diferent from what we have now? You can sign online petitons all you want, as long as we have a left wing liberal governor nothing is going to change for sportsman, thats the reality of it.
So we have another taxation without representation, only its not us seperated by an ocean but a mountain instead.

 Do you really see a difference in a liberal governor being elected and then appointing like minded tree hugging individuals to those positions, or allowing those positions be voted on individually? :chuckle:

The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first!

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Just curious. If this petition somehow worked, who would you replace Anderson with and how would that person make things better? And do you believe this new person could actually get the job? Or are you going to get more of the same or even someone worse.

When you create a void, be sure you now how it's going to be filled.

 At that time we can all voice our opinions on who it should be.

Yeah, how'd that work out when Jay Kehne's name came up.
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Thats a good question Sitka. Me personally, and I know Todd is enjoying his retirement but when push comes to shove I hope he or someone just like him jumps in the running, WDFW needs a little old school action if you ask me, we need someone who wants to fight and not run, we need someone who will hold people accountable for their actions, and someone that will stand up for are wildlife of all walks... .not someone thats a yes man or with political asperations...

That's fair enough. Who do you have in mind? This can't be just about getting rid of somebody. It also has to be about who will take their place.

If you are talking about the Director position; I have no idea.  If you are talking about the Chief position, I can come up with several great options, including a Sgt. (Rich Phillips) who Chief Crown just demoted.
Trust me, nobody would even consider me (I am not exactly politically correct), and I have no desire to go back to WDFW nor to move to the west-side.

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Only way it changes is through elections. Maybe a petition to make these elected positions.

....which would be an absolute disaster.  How many commissioners do you want selected by non-hunters and/or anti-hunters?
How is that any diferent from what we have now? You can sign online petitons all you want, as long as we have a left wing liberal governor nothing is going to change for sportsman, thats the reality of it.
So we have another taxation without representation, only its not us seperated by an ocean but a mountain instead.

 Do you really see a difference in a liberal governor being elected and then appointing like minded tree hugging individuals to those positions, or allowing those positions be voted on individually? :chuckle:

That is a very real point.  No matter how you hold elections in this state, King County decides it all.

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Signed!!

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Signed!!

Thanks.  Now please don't forget to spread the word to everyone you can think of.

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Signed.

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Done

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Thanks to everyone who has signed the petition.  We are already over 350 signatures!
To those who haven't signed, please do so:

http://www.change.org/petitions/washington-state-fish-and-wildlife-commission-remove-wdfw-director-phil-anderson-chief-steve-crown-and-deputy-chief-mike-cenci

 


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